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Has there been released test data regarding whether or not there was a y chromosome? That seems to be the question that I have heard, and last that I heard it wasn’t resolved. I know this isn’t a popular opinion on lemmy, but I can understand the question.

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This is a woman who has given birth

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But the CHROMOSOMES MASON. WHAT DO THEY MEAN?

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Also chromosome tests aren’t a foolproof indication of sex anyway. People can have one set or another while still having the properties associated with the other sex, so it doesn’t really work as a definitive measure. The question is reasonable until you examine it and it’s motives.

The question subtly suggests that if she had a Y chromosome then she has some biological advantage and therefore doesn’t deserve the medal she earned. Does she actually have an advantage from the Y chromosome? Are we going to ensure through DNA testing that all competitors are going to be exactly equal by genetics? If so, we’re going to have 8 clones of Usain Bolt competing for the 100m sprint. Michael Phelps arguably had a biological advantage by having hyper flexible shoulders, are we disqualifying those biological advantages? Of course not, so what do they actually mean when asking those questions about the chromosome? They don’t have meaningful answers to the questions I raise, they just want to add fuel to the fires of the culture war for their own political means.

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That’s just because these questions are disingenious at best. The real questions you should ask is why there are different men and women competitions on all levels (answer: to not deny half of the population to meaningfully compete) and where those people that don’t clearly fall into this binary division should enter.

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We’re talking about a cis woman who was born in Algeria, where gender reassignment is not a recognised practice. She is not trans, regardless of what chromosomes she has.

This weird obsession with female athletes who have too much testosterone or a Y chromosome being in some way at an unfair advantage is also absurd. Male athletes who are genetic freaks are just recognised as extraordinary for their height, wingspan or lung capacity. The same should go for women

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Okay I promise I’m not a eugenicist but I am kinda interested in the genetics and physiology of top athletes. At the highest level that last 1% of advantage from just genetic luck is pretty interesting to me. Obviously it doesn’t diminish from what the athletes have accomplished but I do think it’s interesting. Like we’re all just piloting meat based mech suits and the underlying base stats fluctuate between models and even individual units. I think that’s pretty cool to think about and also worth acknowledging on top of the hard work an athlete puts into perfecting their chosen sport.

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It’s totally fine to be interested in these things. Where it gets murky is when people say things like: women with too much testosterone are too good and should take drugs to block their natural testosterone levels. Just because someone is at that 1% advantage level doesn’t mean we should stop them from competing. If anything we should let them cook so we can see what the upper limits of human potential could be

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I, for one, think that everyone better at sports than me should be banned from competition.

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The short answer is that no such test has ever been produced, and the boxing association that claimed they had done one never revealed the precise results, or even which lab had supposedly done the test, and has since been decertified for corruption.

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