Would I rather live under Russian rule than die? Yes of course.
And the majority of Ukrainians would prefer that as well. And despite what you’re (probably) going to say, this is not just my opinion, this is a fact - Zelensky has to prevent people from leaving the country, he has to kidnap people off the streets just so that there is some cannon fodder to prolong the war. People either hide at home, or run from recruitment officers. People would rather die trying to escape the country than die on a battlefield fighting for Zelensky’s regime. And even western medias are writing about it now, it’s not taboo anymore. Zelensky tries real hard to convince people that Putin will exterminate Ukrainians. And yet, it’s you (probably) who believes him, not the actual people who are supposedly about to be exterminated.
Seriously, just stop for a moment and think - if Russia is as evil as some try to portrait it - why is Zelensky having so much trouble with conscription? Why those stupid stupid Ukrainians don’t go and fight for their survival against Putin who is going to destroy them? Maybe, just maybe, it’s actually propaganda?
Okay, that’s fair, Ukrainians never faced any serious discrimination under Russian rule. Unfortunately, as an Estonian, I know people whose families were affected by the forced deportations. By the way, how do you feel about Crimean Tatars or the Holodomor? Are those just anti-Russian propaganda too?
Unfortunately, as an Estonian, I know people whose families were affected by the forced deportations.
Oh well, I never really said that Russia is good, it has done lots of bad things, including to the Baltic states.
It’s just that what Zelensky is doing to us is infinitely worse than what would probably be “under Russian rule”.
By the way, how do you feel about Crimean Tatars or the Holodomor? Are those just anti-Russian propaganda too?
Holodomor - my great grandmother lived through it, I have little reason to doubt it or think that it is anti-Russian propaganda, it was terrible.
Crimean Tatars - I’m not very familiar with this topic so I’m not sure what exactly you’re referring to (I guess it’s the deportations?), but I’m sure it was also indeed a bad thing.
It’s just that what Zelensky is doing to us is infinitely worse than what would probably be “under Russian rule”.
I guess that’s true, I’m not a fan of forced conscription and punishable desertion either. But if Russia wins, have you escaped forced conscription for good? Or will you be forced to fight in Putin’s next conquest?
For now, you have a chance to build your own country still. Yes there’s a lot of corruption and many, many other issues. Yes, the GDP per capita is pretty weak so Ukrainians are better off working abroad. But you still get a say in matters. Zelenskyy the comedian was elected because people were tired of the status quo. Has he fixed everything? Probably not, but he can still be replaced. In the modern day Russian empire you either vote for Putin or your vote doesn’t count.
Crimean Tatars - I’m not very familiar with this topic so I’m not sure what exactly you’re referring to (I guess it’s the deportations?), but I’m sure it was also indeed a bad thing.
Yes, I meant the deportations. Russia deported every single one of them because they saw them as a geopolitical threat in Crimea. Here in the Baltics at least it was mostly people with land or nasty back-stabbing neighbours that were deported, not specific ethnic groups generally.
Anyway, I’m glad to see you’re not a Russian shill, but an actual person with a real view to the entire issue. Obviously I support your right to not go to war against Russia. But I think just laying down arms isn’t a solution either. Of course, I have a vested interest of my own. The more your brothers and sisters weaken Russia, the safer I am too.
