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71 points

Because the big players there are not serious idealogues, they are paid a paltry sum through private channels to constantly spread Russian and Chinese disinformation in their larger psyop campaign against the West.

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For anyone that needs to hear it, you can have both. You can live in a free society and also plot to bisect your nearest oligarch next time they go to their favorite sushi restaurant

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Exactly. Watch the downvotes for your comment roll in as day becomes night in the west.

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I can’t speak for the other Lefties on here but I’m a Western citizen and former proud Liberal persuaded by arguments on this very website

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as day becomes night in the west.

Title of my wild west themed romance novel

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I think I saw that in LaGuardia. Cover has a cowboy rubbing his horse’s backside as the sun sets behind the old saloon?

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A whopping two downvotes, yeah I’m sure the paid social media spam targets the 17k active users on lemmy.world and not the billions of users on Facebook

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5 points

It’s only 2 PM in California.

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I think you two need to check your tin foil supply.

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Highly doubtful. The amount of time, money, and effort would be much better spent elsewhere. Lemmy’s audience is very small.

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Time

Basically none on the part of the handlers. Often this arrangement is handled by a private firm that doesn’t necessarily have to be Russian or Chinese, I have heard of one operating in Australia. The posters themselves are spending a lot of time, but they’re the ones selling it.

Money

Again, they’re not exactly paying these guys a living wage, and even if they were, it’s peanut crumbs for state-level actors.

Effort

A lot of people say that Lemmy is not worth the effort to demoralize because it’s too small, I say the effort is too small to not be worth the investment. I would even say that Lemmy users are self-selected for radicalization in some ways, broadly speaking they are fed up with corporate social media and corporatism in general.

It’s also a somewhat important step to have a place they can speak unfiltered amongst themselves, no matter how small the clubhouse is. That’s where the real funky shit happens.

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I doubt those people are even aware of Lemmy, let alone hiring teams of people to post here. But regardless of how plausible it is, this is just speculation with no evidence behind it.

That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

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Yeah, more likely the actors on Lemmy are just useful idiots parroting propaganda points they’ve heard elsewhere.

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debatable though.

Lemmy is very lefty, by nature, it could be considered that causing dissent within broadly the lefty sphere, in a targetted fashion, such as through the IP conflict, would be considered worthwhile.

It could even be worthwhile for other reasons, preventing people from caring about the ukraine conflict for example.

Though i think other people are right with the useful idiots. I would argue it’s still summing up to a propaganda outlet, it’s just free labor instead.

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I agree that people here are uncritically regurgitating propaganda but of course liberals are also guilty of this. Frankly, it’s fairly difficult to avoid in this era. Most sources of information are controlled by or at minimum influenced by various powerful forces in society, each with their own interests.

I guess it is a little more surprising to see people absorbing propaganda from hostile foreign nations than from their own. But another part of me thinks I’m not being critical enough of the idea of nationalism which is a harmful and largely fictional concept.

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