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151 points

It’s like every time there’s a war everybody forgets how fucking long they take. WW2 took six years. The Vietnam War took almost 20 years, same with the Afghanistan War. Anybody expecting anything solid within the next couple years is delusional. Ukraine is in it for the long haul.

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“We’ll fight til the last Ukrainian!”

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There’s a lot of angry liberals replying to your post, so I thought I’d link a great video on how/why the war in Ukraine came to be:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LL4eNy4FCs8&si=gaMRzFwo5JP5RzeD

This channel is leftist but they aren’t communists, as far as I know.

Tldw: This war was completely avoidable. Had the US/NATO kept its promise to not expand eastward none of this would have happened. Even Biden said that 25 years ago. Americans groomed certain Ukrainians for political office, and prevented others from running. There was an opportunity to end the war last year on somewhat decent terms for Ukraine, but Boris Johnson rushed in to stop it from happening, promising massive support. But war exhaustion has caught up and Ukraine is running out of people, and western leaders are already starting to call for the end of the war — except this time it will be on russias terms and Ukraine is going to get fucked. Big western capitalists have had their fingers in this pie because there’s a lot of money to be made in the country. That’s it.

Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows that Putins invasion was a horrific, imperialist move. Any commie you see protesting the war isn’t doing it because they support Russia (Russia is a capitalist country), they’re doing it because they don’t support NATO. We are often the makers of our own enemies here in the west. Viet Cong, Taliban, ISIS, and Russia were all created or shaped by western (mainly US) policies.

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Libs gonna lib man…

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Judging by the tl;dw that video is hitting bingo on this one.

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Seems like to you being a lib means not falling for badly researched, one-sided videos?

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70 points

“We shouldn’t help the rape victim and they should hope that it’s over quickly. Also, it’s actually not rape, it’s a special sexual operation and they deserved it.” - Tankies

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And shelling civilians in the Donbas is presumably the equivalent of putting on a nice dress in your metaphor?

Make extremely inappropriate and wrong rape comparison ⇒ Accuse anyone who disagrees of being a rape apologist ⇒ FUCK TANKIES!

Extremely normal and sound logic there, definitely not just vibe-based emotional manipulation.

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Funny how if you’re against another endless war you’re a tankie and support Putin…

I’m neither a tankie nor I support Putin. But I also don’t support NATO and the Empire.

But just as a note, most “tankies” don’t support Russia and know Putin is a conservative capitalist. I mean he is the direct result of the dismantling of the USSR by internal revisionists (tsarists and capitalists) and the CIA.

But again, it’s the Iraq war all over again. And you libs are doing THE SAME THING. It’s hilarious.

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*support

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That’s because it isn’t really about any particular military objective, it’s about creating business for the war industry.

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We can hope Putin dies from being an old fuck and Russia gives up

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The US is on its last legs though. It badly needed this win. The US falls before Putin dies.

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I always take a peek at the comment history when I see things like this. And this guy basically just woke up to say things like this in one specific thread.

I’m no longer a mod of anything these days, but if I had a mod-hammer I’d send you into the next galaxy.

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What drugs are you on and where can I get some?

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That’s not strictly true. On the short end, there was the six-day war. On the long end, there was the hundred years’ war.

Putin was clearly aiming for the short option, but then I suppose most belligerents usually are.

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Dude took the low end and said “fuck that we’ll do it twice as fast.”

The good news is I don’t think Russia can continue to sustain these kind of losses for 199 more years.

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Neither can Ukraine…

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21 points

The Anglo-Zanzibar War lasted less than an hour

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‘Gunboat diplomacy’ isn’t very diplomatic.

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I’d actually love to see a graph that shows the distribution of lengths of various wars

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And Russia expected their little venture to be done in days.

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It was never supposed to turn into a real war. They wanted to assassinate Zelenskyy put some Russian plant in as president, annex some more land and call it a night. Obviously Zelenskyy survived and the rest is history.

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“No plan survives first contact with the enemy”

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Frontlines were actually moving, especially in the Eastern Front. Not so much in China and the Pacific, though.

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