which the U.K. learnt the hard way, that you cannot negotiate with dictators. There can be no “peace in our time” with dictators hellbent on destruction.

If the UK is convinced that you can’t negotiate with dictators, how does the UK keep entering into arms sales agreements with Saudi Arabia? Do the contracts just appear out of thin air at BAE?

Sigh.

I am referencing to a dictator that is hellbent on invasion of other countries. We had plenty of relations with Russia before they decided to invade Ukraine and they were a dictatorship before. We have plenty of relationships with China now and they are a de facto dictatorship.

You’re not very smart.

I am referencing to a dictator that is hellbent on invasion of other countries

Yemen isn’t a country because it isn’t white enough for you

The Saudis used their British weapons to bomb Yemen and create one of the worst humanitarian catastrophes in recent memory. The UK sold weapons to Saudi before, during, and after the Saudi involvement in Yemen.

Perhaps Russia should have merely bombed Ukraine to the point of starvation. Then they’d be a good dictatorship that the UK would be happy to carry out business negotiations with.

What’s going on in Yemen is incredibly complicated. I’m not condoning everything Saudi Arabia is doing there, far from it, but to call it out as a good vs evil war is frankly a simpleton view. Saudi is bad there. Everyone is bad there. It’s a huge mess. But I think it’s important to recognise that the Saudis aim is to restore order in a neighbourhood country, to prevent Iranian influence from growing and to suppress violent Islamic fundamentalism.

s love doing the “its complicated… [handwaving about all sides are bad] …so i support the US position” take

When it’s the US/West doing something there’s all this room for ‘nuance’ but when it is Bad Country it’s suddenly clear-cut good vs evil.

What’s going on in Ukraine is incredibly complicated. I’m not condoning everything Russia is doing there, far from it, but to call it out as a good vs evil war is frankly a simpleton view. Russia is bad there. Everyone is bad there. It’s a huge mess. But I think it’s important to recognise that the Russians’ aim is to restore order in a neighbourhood country, to prevent American influence from growing and to suppress violent Neo-Nazi extremism.

Ahh that’s why Russia used the Wagner group

I think sending a nazi-ish mercenarygroup into the meat grinder against an even more nazi-ish group so that they both wipe each other out (like what happened in Bahkmut) is good actually

Every lib’s real values: white people invaded=the good guys

Brown/Black people invaded=it’s complicated

They did say saudis bad tho, we should give the same nuance we expect from others. I don’t suppose the commenter you’re replying to supports Saudi arabia, it’s just odd that the nuance they’re seemingly willing to grant the saudis wont be given to Russia

“Restored order” is such a bullshit line

to prevent Iranian influence from growing and to suppress violent Islamic fundamentalism.

Lol, Iran is more moderate than Saudi Arabia and bombing and starving populations is how you create radicals.

But I think it’s important to recognise that the Saudis aim is to restore order in a neighbourhood country, to prevent Iranian influence from growing and to suppress violent Islamic fundamentalism.

“Restoring order is when you bomb hospitals and exacerbate famines and the more people that die, the more order it is.”

The Saudis are committing genocide in Yemen. No ifs, no buts. To claim they have a good reason to be out there doing it is genocide apologia.

the saudis make a desert and call it peace

Holy shit man just realize you have no ideology or clue, stop talking and educate yourself on what the actual fuck is going on in the world. It would be a far more productive use of your time.

prevent Iranian influence from growing and to suppress violent Islamic fundamentalism.

yeah the saudis are really worried about Islamic fundamentalism

And you think somehow the Ukraine situation is cut and dry?

The NYT said that one is simple!

Ahh, well then, if they said so

Don’t be ridiculous

Ukrainians are white

That’s only acceptable when it’s brown, asian, or south american people who’s country you’re destroying.

Temporarily white mind you. They will be presented as unwashed asiatic slavic hordes soon enough by the western press, unfortunately.

Such trends and anti-ukranian xenophobia are already strongly devolping in Poland.

Ironic that you accuse others of reapting Kremlin talking points while vomiting the most generic pro Nato shit

They get their opinions straight from the white house and brussels.

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