What if you could work just four days a week but get paid for five?

That’s essentially what Shawn Fain, president of the United Auto Workers, has been agitating for in ongoing labor talks in Detroit.

The reform-minded union leader envisions a 32-hour work week for 40 hours of pay, and overtime for anything more.

As wild as that might sound, he’s leaning on a concept that has captured the imagination of workers all over the world, thanks to widely publicized trials. Microsoft ran a month-long pilot in Japan in 2019 and reported hugely positive results, including a 40% increase in productivity. More recently, dozens of companies in the U.S., Canada, and Europe have participated in ongoing trials that have likewise been deemed successful.

But Fain’s push — alongside other “audacious demands” (Fain’s own words) the UAW has laid on the table — is noteworthy because of how radical a change it would represent.

“Our members are working 60, 70, even 80 hours a week just to make ends meet,” Fain said on a Facebook Live event last month. “That’s not a living. That’s barely surviving, and it needs to stop.”

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Most office jobs do less than 30 hours of actual work per week. This is way overdue.

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Any office worker who tells you they do 40 hours of work a week is lying. There’s so much time wasting, gossip, water cooler talk, or just staring at the wall. People are burned out after 30 hours. Everyone feels more rejuvenated after a three day weekend, 2 days just isn’t enough to come back feeling refreshed, so Monday is usually a wash anyway as we get back in the zone

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You’ve been in the office mines.

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Shit, I’d take four 10-hour workdays and a day off over five 8-hour workdays. It’s not about the hours per week, but about being able to enjoy a full day to myself.

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I wouldn’t. That’s four days of hell for 3 days of catching up on everything. That’s you essentially having 4 days of doing nothing but work, getting to work, and managing family, with no time to do really anything else. All of your chores, all of your preparation, everything have to be done during those 3 days. That would be brutal.

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You’d be surprised how many people waste 2 hours simply decompressing from their 8 hour day as is.

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