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Apple responds to the Beeper iMessage saga: ‘We took steps to protect our users’(www.theverge.com)

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Eager Eagle@lemmy.world
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cause of lazy iOS users that can’t be bothered to use anything else

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Jeena@jemmy.jeena.net
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Then why are we shaming Apple and not the iOS users? I think Apple is totally reasonable here.

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danhakimi@kbin.social
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Apple’s biggest crimes here are creating a proprietary platform with an exclusive protocol and making it the default messaging protocol on their devices. None of this is really new, though. All that shit is common. We need Signal or Matrix to improve in user-friendliness and even do some marketing to the point where they become viable solutions.

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Jeena@jemmy.jeena.net
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I’m not sure about Signal being the one, then we just give the power from one company (Apple) to another (Signal). If we want to improve then we should push open protocols where people can host their own infrastructure.

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Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works
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I am not an Apple fanboy at all, I have used iPhones for work previously.

RCS debuted three years before iMessage, Apple developed iMessage because no one could get RCS standards together. We still don’t have this, Google has theirs, Samsung has another. Not all manufacturers support it and neither do all carriers. In my country it does not exist.

I use SimpleX, but when I used a company iPhone, iMessage worked very well, and it worked everywhere regardless of carrier. RCS does not 15 years after its introduction.

None of this is to say there should not be interoperability, clearly there should be. Historically at least, the blame lies with Google and mobile carriers.

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HeartyBeast@kbin.social
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The default messaging protocol is SMS. Unless you are talking with another Apple user

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Otter@lemmy.ca
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More marketing would be nice

As for features, an easy remote backup solution (similar to be bettet than WhatsApp) is the big one for me. Especially on iOS

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Alto@kbin.social
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There is absolutely nothing reasonable with using an inferior and outdated standard compared to what literally everybody else uses.

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HeartyBeast@kbin.social
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Message works, it’s seamless and does a good job. Sure I’ll change to something else if I need to send images or group chat with Android uses, but in the UK that generally means WhatsApp, which I am definitely not keen on.

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