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What do they use? Whatsapp? Wechat? Signal?

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Germany uses Whatsapp and Signal. Whatsapp for the older generation, Signal for the younger ones. But almost everyone has both. Telegram is a niche messenger for conspiracy theorists and alt-righters, because it’s russian and those people love Russia.

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Yea, that’s totally why people I know use Telegram / 🤦‍♂️

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Might be different in other countries, but in Germany its only used by them.

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i live in germany and to me telegram doesn’t feel niche at all.

a lot of younger people use it a bit like discord, like for group stuff. organizing (like e.g. political activism), finding apartents in berlin, and yes, getting drugs as well. also some worklplaces use it (which i think is terrible). it is also preferred by a lot of people to communicate via telegram over signal or whatsapp in situations where people don’t want to give away their number, like online dating.

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Whatsapp

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Interesting ty!

So before you can message anyone you have to download whatsapp? iMessage is preinstalled and is also e2e encrypted. Idk if I’d rather Facebook or Apple (who can access iCloud backups of normally otherwise encrypted data, etc.) in charge of my messaging infrastructure, honestly.

Americans with Android are left to use literal SMS which is atrocious, or a different messaging solution, probably whatsapp I guess

edit: I don’t like iMessage or the current state of messaging in the US. I feel like all the default messaging apps should be able to communicate e2e encrypted via some shared standard or something-- it’s weird to have to go third party

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It must be so difficult to spend 2 whole seconds downloading an app to use for messaging. and yes it’s end to end encrypted too.

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Americans with Android are stuck using SMS half the time because Americans with iPhones are literally holding us back. If it wasn’t for iMessage, we would have ditched SMS years ago, but when you suggest to an iPhone user that they use something other than iMessage their head explodes, apparently.

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WhatsApp became the dominant messaging platform in Europe before Facebook bought them. Most people are locked in to it because change is hard and they don’t care that much about privacy.

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whatsapp is e2e encrypted

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Yes, most people in western Europe use Whatsapp. Yes, they have to download it before they can use it. Maybe some phones have it preinstalled, but most smartphone users do know how to download apps. More tech-savvy and privacy-conscious people often have Signal as well.

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So before you can message anyone you have to download whatsapp?

Yes and almost everyone around the world outside China and the USA does that. WhatsApp has 2 billion users.

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So before you can message anyone you have to download whatsapp?

I love how this seems like a near insurmountable hurdle. Install an app?? On a phone?!

I have a relative who is ~85 years old; he uses WhatsApp. It’s really not that hard.

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Android users get to use the default messages app, with the whole e2e encryption, reactions, full sized photos etc… SMS is used for advertisements, and sending messages to iphone users… SMS is only used by old people for 2fa as 2fa apps usualy have superior security and are now systematically prefered by companies.

Both iphone users and android users need to download an extra app if they want E2E, full graphic images and videos, reactions etc…

Just as people aren’t content with iWork and usually download Office because it works the same and can be read with the same formatting everywhere.

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WhatsApp is also E2E and backup can also be encrypted (Atleast on Android).

I just hope we can Interoperability b/w Signal and WhatsApp.

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iMessage is preinstalled

The whole point is: it isn’t more often than not. And unlike Whatsapp, you can’t even install it.

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Viber

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Eastern Europe, perhaos. Not really anywhere else in europe.

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Over here it’s Facebook Messenger, followed by Telegram and only then WhatsApp. Signal is niche stuff for nerds such as yours truly.

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Where I live it’s mostly whatsapp

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Yeah it actually varies a lot. In Poland Whatsapp is the boomer messaging app for cringy political memes used exclusively by 50+ year-olds. Everyone else uses Facebook Messenger and Telegram (especially Ukrainians, Belarussians and people who work with them)

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Depends on the country but mostly WhatsApp followed in second place by Telegram

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