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Q: why not organize and stop treating the bus as a legitimate entity? why aren’t you working to stop the bus?

A: do both. cut the fuel line. break windows. put oatmeal in the gas tank. but maybe your efforts don’t succeed this election cycle. and if so don’t fucking throw away your vote if it can help your neighbors fucking survive. “harm reduction” is not a political strategy for action. it is a last minute, end of the line decision to save lives, after all other resources have been exhausted.

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6 points

The thing is, doing that is a great way to lose credibility. You’re basically sinking to the same level as the fascists.

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10 points

Except, it’s not an attempt to end democracy, as fascism is.

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5 points

disagree

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2 points

Extremism is how you start a civil war…

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28 points

Anti fascist sabotage is bad because violence, hmm 🧐

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8 points

As long as you don’t physically harm people, sabotage all the fascists you want. Just remember to vote.

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4 points

So you’re saying that you would condemn the killing of Donald Trump if he gets into power and enacts his dictature?

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17 points

I was very careful to avoid actual violence in my language. You were the one that equated it to fascism, which I assume you mean is the cliff driver.

Of course stopping the bus isn’t violent, and is not at all equivalent to the cliff driver.

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Oh because of the violence? Driving off a cliff is also violent behaviour, and with the bus as it is the cliff is inevitable, because the cliff drivers will always get back in. Also, the other guy isn’t the icecream guy. He’s the guy who promised to stop for icecream but doesn’t want to tell you if or how fast he plans to drive off the cliff. He’s open to debate on the issue, but he has a lot cliff driving friends and they often cast the deciding vote in cliff driving matters.

They’re both getting us off the cliff, just one is being more coy and circumspect than the other.

The only reason to vote for the less-immediate cliff driver is to give you more time to stop the bus.

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8 points

Let me know when you start the violence. It’s easy as fuck to sit behind your iphone calling others to die.

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8 points

Coooool comeback.

Even easier to sit behind your iPhone telling people to vote even though it will never solve our problems.

And my theory of change is not actually violent - you’ll notice I didn’t advocate hurting anyone, just dismantling the machinery of violence. The other person called it equal to fascism, which I assume they equate to the cliff driver, so I took their assumption of violence as given, which I shouldn’t have. Stopping the bus is infinitely preferrable to driving it off the cliff.

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