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There are 2 sets of voters in this nation.

Those who want to solve the problems we face, and those who just want to kick the can down the road for someone else while rich people get richer.

If you vote for republicans or democrats, you’re in the latter camp.

It really puts things into perspective when you think about it like this.

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If you want to move the Overton window, you vote. That’s the perspective you need.

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Yeah. You need to vote for candidates that don’t just look out for rich people.

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Those people are never on my ballot, unfortunately.

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How do you get that? By moving the Overton window. And how do you get that? By VOTING. But it seems you want to yell at a cloud instead. Something tells me you’ll just keep at this ‘whoo is me’, so I’m out.

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Meanwhile, the Overton window has been shifting right radically. Seems like this lesser of two evils nonsense is actually doing the opposite of what you claim.

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Moved because Trump won an election. But you want to suggest that’s just random? C’mon.

*Btw it’s moving the Overton window, not lesser of two evils as you want to put it. You want policy number 426? You have to vote for policy 1 first. You have to walk before you can run.

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The Overton window is not something that can be changed electorally. Candidates can only get on the ballot in the first place if they’re within the Overton window, as anybody outside the window is “radical” or “extreme”, and the existing political powers forbid their candidacy. The electoral window is moved outside the electoral process, and only then can the electoral system permit new candidates with new ideas.

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Lol yes it can. Why are we having idiotic discussion to disband the EPA? Because Trump won an election. That moved the Overton window, drastically at that. Why can’t Biden do ______? Because the Republicans still have a very real chance of winning. When the GOP has no chance of winning, then the Overton window can move more.

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So… were just ignoring the current candidates? And the current debates and policies that each have pushed?

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Self-righteous bullshit. I want to solve problems someday and that’s precisely why I vote for Democrats. Letting Trumpists take over now will make any progress vastly harder for the foreseeable future.

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You’re one of the latter.

Let me know when democrats start supporting policies that reduce the disparity in wealth.

We saw everything we needed to see with Bernie. Neither establishment party cares about regular, working class people.

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Let me know when another party gets more than a single digit percent of the vote.

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Ah, so since one of your two options doesn’t give you everything you want, you’ve decided that you’re okay with the one that wants to take away everything you have. Cool story, good luck with that.

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You are truly privileged that you don’t need to worry about more utterly corrupt Fundamentalists on SCOTUS.

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What problem do you believe you’re solving by making it easier for Trump to take office?

Are you offended that women still have some control over their reproductive health, and you need to see that eroded further?

Is it a problem that we aren’t allowed to sexually assault people without repurcussion?

Do you see issues with people still being allowed to vote?

Do you hate legal immigrants, which have consistently lost rights and been victimized by the Republican party over the past few administrations?

Do you dislike your ability to relatively-freely travel abroad, due to our many alliances?

Do you wish we had a giant wall that has been proven ineffective by virtually every single study on the subject, including GOP-backed ones?

Do you wish we were helping Israel commit genocide even harder than they already are?

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My issue is that while we squabble over social issues, the ruling class fucks us with fiscal ones.

Greed and the growing disparity in wealth is the worst issue we face as a species.

If Biden wins we lose. If Trump wins we lose harder. Each option results in a loss because we don’t want actually want to address the disparity in wealth.

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If Biden wins we lose. If Trump wins we lose harder.

…and you think we need to lose harder?

Or do you actually believe that the system that has had the same outcome literally every single election has a chance to produce a different result? How many third-party candidates have received more than 1.5% of the vote? I’ll help: exactly FOUR in the past HUNDRED YEARS.

Or do you actually just want Trump to win and are using your enlightened centrist persona to disguise that fact?

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