Windows 11 and Windows 10 were recently updated with “Windows Backup”, which has now become a system app. While the feature initially appeared as “optional” or something that could be easily dismissed, Microsoft is slowly getting aggressive with its new OneDrive backup campaign on Windows 11.

Windows 11’s “Windows Backup” uses OneDrive to back up many of the things that are important to you. This may include your credentials, settings, pictures, documents, videos, files, themes, or even audio settings. Microsoft wants the Windows Backup app to become the ultimate backup tool, but there’s a catch.

Windows Backup does not support offline backups and requires a OneDrive plan. By default, OneDrive offers 5GB of free storage, which is why some users do not want to backup their PC. But is that going to stop Microsoft from pestering users? Probably not. In a new server-side update, Windows 11 has started nagging users to try the Backup tool.

84 points

Man, they just keep burying their head further. I still have Windows 10 on my gaming PC, and that’s more because I plan on replacing it and will use that moment to transition to Linux, but up until a few months ago I could have been convinced to keep using Windows.

That was until they popped up a full screen ad in the middle of gaming, telling me my PC doesn’t work with 11 but they have great financing options forn a 11 capable PC. Followed by my lock screen having ads of a similar nature. Fucking gross.

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23 points

That’s despicable. Popping a window up over everything enrages me even when it’s an application I intended to open. Popping up a fucking ad while I am in the middle of something is completely unacceptable. I can definitely see what that was the last straw.

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12 points

Search for “chris titus windows tool”. It’s a debloat tool that removes such annoyances. It also includes a button that runs the Shutup tool, that disables another bunch.

I’m a Linux user but I use these tools (and massgravel) on Windows VMs to make them behave.

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48 points

So glad I switched to Linux!

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8 points

Same. I get a big smile on my face every time I read bad news about windows :)

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2 points

Wish I could fully… one 20 year old half life mod I play with friends does not work with Linux AT ALL and it’s one of my favourite games.

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2 points

What game? Love me some old HL/source mods.

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The Specialists HD. It’s a game where everyone is The Matrix. There’s bullet time, king-fu, sick flips, and tons of amazing weapons. I’ve been playing for like 15 years. It’s all-but-dead other than my amazing friend who hosts a server, our close friends, and some old-heads. It’s my favourite FPS.

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37 points

Windows 7 was my last windows. Since then it’s been Linux on all machines. It was easy to see where Microsoft were going. And they will continue to go down this route.

When you run windows, it’s not your computer.

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I’m getting tired of Microsoft reading my data. What’s you backup strategy on linux?

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Not OP but:

Separate the system and home partition, first of all. The strategies are usually different.

Many distros integrate Timeshift out of the box to create system partition snapshots before every update, and to be able to restore them from the boot menu. Using BTRFS for the system partition makes this even better.

This is usually all that people need in regards to the system, but you can also take regular backups (see below) of things like /etc, the list of installed packages and things like that.

For personal files I prefer Borg Backup because it is incremental, does compression, deduplication, encryption, checksums & recovery.

Borg works with repositories, which can be on local disk, on a removable disk, or remote. If remote, they are tunneled over SSH. It can also export/import tarballs for more exotic scenarios like moving snapshots between different repositories or backing up data to optical discs.

You can use Borg from the CLI and there are also UI apps that make it easier. Pika Backup is a simpler one, Vorta is a more advanced one. I’ve set up family members with Pika and after preparing it for them all they have to do is plug in the backup HDD, open Pika, and hit the big “backup now” button.

There are also online services that support Borg repositories specifically, and for anything that doesn’t you can export tarballs and back them up as regular files, completely transparently from the service.

rclone is a cli tool that supports a large number of online storage services. You can use it with borg snapshots or you can use it to back up your files directly — it resembles rsync somewhat and can also do encryption iirc.

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2 points

Good writeup.

But why separate /home?

I get that it makes it easy to just grab the home partition in full, but grabbing just your own home folder isn’t any more difficult than grabbing a home partition.

And it makes it really fucking annoying to manage storage between / and /home. You have to pick how much disk space you want for your own things and how much you want for installing things, and changing it later is a giant PIA. The one time I did it I kept running out of space on one or the other.

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regular backups (see below) of things like /etc

There’s etckeeper too.

Btw, etc is for system/default settings.

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I don’t store any data on my home machines. Anything important is on my NAS which then gets backed up to Backblaze, and to a NAS as my parents house.

I can wipe my laptop and have apps set up again in an hour, and my desktop mainly stores games I can just redownload from Steam.

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simply timeshift backing up the system on ssd. random important stuff, tv shows etc on hdd and backup of the hdd on an external hdd. pictures and other important files also on phone storage.

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Automatic system snapshots via BTRFS. Backup to external disk via rsync.

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I have a synology NAS with two disks in raid config, where I store backups from the other machines over the home network. So one disk can fail without issues. And I backup the Nas to a hetzner storage box as well. They are pretty cheap. :)

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3 points

Windows2000 was my last. After having managed to work in IT and using Linux on my desktop, I started a new job last year which required me to use Windows11. I find it quite awkward.

Luckily WSL is a thing.

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37 points

This nagging + only offering a “Not Now” “rejection” option shit needs to stop. Apple constantly does this too on iPhone and Mac. Umm, I said no to having it or upgrading it, that should mean never bother me again unless I seek it out intentionally.

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16 points

It genuinely makes my skin crawl — reminds me of being nagged for sex from someone who hears “not now” when you mean “no.”

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35 points

I think Windows 10 will be the last version I use. As time goes on, Linux seems more and more like a viable option, and I’ll be glad to have control over my PC for once. And who knows, maybe I will no longer have the mysterious freezing issue that’s been plaguing me for years…

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10 points

I switched over ~3 ish years ago and have never been happier. I recommend Fedora if you want any distro suggestions.

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3 points

Do all distros have the same compatibility with video cards and software? I want something that’ll run Blender, Krita, Gimp, etc., and support my Wacom tablet. And run my favorite games, of course. Lots of people say Mint is good for newbies jumping ship. I don’t mind learning a new environment and running console commands from time-to-time.

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What video card do you have? All distros should work perfectly with AMD cards out of the box, while nvidia you will probably have to install the driver yourself. Nvidia driver support is continually getting better as time goes on though.

Blender, GIMP, and Krita will work out of the box with all distros. Not 100% sure on the tablet so you may wanna research a bit more on that front.

I tried Mint when I originally switched and wasn’t a fan, I distro hopped a bit and stuck with Fedora when I tried it out. I use the gnome version of Fedora and originally installed some extensions to make it more windows like. After a few months I dropped those extensions and am pretty much in vanilla gnome now.

Also sorta unrelated but I also installed the new cosmic desktop environment recently (it’s pre alpha right now) and use it instead of gnome, I like it more than gnome but it’s pre alpha so hold off on that one probably.

The only issues I’ve experienced in recent memory with using Linux is Steam won’t launch properly if I launch it using the steam icon, I have to open a terminal window and type ‘steam’. That launches steam with the terminal, and I have to leave that terminal window open as long as I want steam open.

Whatever distro/de you end up going with will have a learning curve for sure but in my opinion it’s really worth it. I truly think open source software should be the future, and I’m happy I took the leap myself. Good luck on your journey!

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I switched to Pop!_OS earlier this year and couldn’t be happier. All apps run way faster than they did with Windows on the same hardware. All but one of my Steam games run great (one day I’ll get that last game to work). My “life critical” things are web based, everything else is adjustable.

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That sounds promising. I’ve heard good things about Pop!_OS. Which game has issues, if I might ask?

I try to avoid web-based apps when I can. For instance, there is a supposedly great photo editor that’s only available via web browser. I’d hate to become dependent on it and then lose access due to an internet outage, or something.

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Sorry, when I said “life critical”, i mean things like email, banking, self-hosted NextCloud for files, etc. For me, everything else is flexible as I don’t have business things that have to run on Windows (that is my work provided laptop), so I don’t have to have the Adobe suite for photo editing, i can use one of several open source alternatives, and all of my hobbies have open source alternatives like Blender.

The only game I cannot get to run is Space Engineers. Numerous other newer and older games work great. To be fair, I’m not an online/multiplayer gamer, so the challenges people run in to due to anti-cheating requirements don’t affect the games I play.

What was really interesting to me, is that I tried Windows 11 Pro and 6 or 7 different Linux distros over several months before landing on Pop!_OS. I mention this because it was all the exact same hardware and so I was able to compare performance in an Apples to Apples situation. There is an obvious application loading improvement. Even comparing against something like Garuda that is supposedly all about performance tweaks.

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I switched to opensuse tumbleweed about 3 months ago and I have zero complaints. Yast is such a powerful too you can avoid using the terminal for many things, and it being rolling release makes it easier to stay up to date. Plus it comes with snapper reconfigured so if anything breaks you can rollback in about 5 minutes. I’ve had to learn some new things, and a few online games don’t work according to proton db but I’ve yet to run into a game problem on a game I want to play.

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I don’t mind learning and using the terminal. From what I hear, it can be used to automate things more easily than on Windows and I’m all for it, as long as it’s not needed for everyday tasks.

I think when I eventually (soon, I hope) get my PC hooked up where I’m at I’ll try either Pop!_OS or Mint.

Thanks for the feedback~

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