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Remember, who made the flashlight for the scientist? The philosopher.

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The amount of “science fans” dismissing philosophy is ridiculous

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I don’t see this as being dismissive of philosophy at all. Science has always stood on the shoulders of philosophy. In the context of the meme, it established the possibility of the black cat existing. It’s the baseline. Science then used tools to test the idea, while metaphysics and theology are off somewhere making unfalsifiable claims.

Judging by some of the responses, I’m in the minority with this interpretation.

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If it puts us in a minority to regard scientific achievement as owing a debt of gratitude to epistemology and empiricism, not to mention ethics and countless other branches of study that cannot be taken for granted, then so be it. To take science on its own as merely a self evident and wholly objective practice solely fit for solving problems and creating better technologies is as boring as it is anti intellectual.

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This meme is highly misinformed about how any of these academic subjects work though. (Meta)physicists and theologists don’t make claims, they research the consequences of certain assumptions. Most elementary sciences work that way.

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It’s not about whether or not the meme is dismissive of philosophy. It’s that the writer clearly doesn’t understand the basics of these fields and the kinds of questions they ask/answer, including science. Heck metaphysics isn’t even a separate field, it’s a sub-field of philosophy.

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It’s completely insane how they think science somehow invalidates philosophy. First off, it doesn’t even ask the same questions, and only really applies to the physical aspect of the world.

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I agree with the conclusion of your metaphor but I think that literally “the scientist” invented the flashlight.

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who made the flashlight for the scientist? The philosopher.

You misspelt engineer.

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But observing the cat with the flashlight fundamentally affects the cat.

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The cat both has and hasn’t knocked something breakable off a counter or table before you enter the room.

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Astronomy is like being in a dark room and looking for a black cat by analyzing the raw image data of several insanely sensitive cameras, then finding out what the cat looks like, what it looked like right after birth, where it’ll be next year and what its gut microbiome consists of, based on a slight reddish hue in its fur.

Alternatively: Astronomy is like being in a dark room and saying “Something seems off. There must be a black cat in here.”

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There are certain behaviors of ordinary cats which can only be explained by the presence of “dark cats”.

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Voids, one might say.

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Some catronomers suggest that ‘dark cats’ might just be bugs, but we haven’t seen any bugs in the room yet.

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Science is more like systematically searching the room while exhaustively documenting all findings to define every place the cat wasn’t, as well as where it was. Then you release the cat and do it several more times. Then you invite your peers to come in the room and try to achieve the same results, comparing their findings with yours, so everyone can have a better chance of finding the cat in future attempts.

Science isn’t easy. It is precise because it is tediously thorough.

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Science isn’t easy.

But, unlike the others, it fucking works.

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Problem: Can a black cat be found in a dark room?

Hypothesis: yes

Variable: flashlight

Control: no flashlight

Findings: “v” group found the cat; the “c” group didn’t.

Theory: You can find a cat in a dark room using a flashlight.

Law: cats land feet first (indisputable)

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Scientific literature doesn’t always take on the observation, hypothesis, experiment, conclusion form so strictly. A lot of the time it’s “This is the state of the field so far. Hey look what we found, that’s interesting. Conclusion: somebody should look into this”

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