From this post (https://sopuli.xyz/post/15865566) on !AskMbin@fedia.io
It’s very likely related, but we also figured out that both of debounced’s (the admin of kbin.run) accounts on GitHub and Matrix were deleted last night. So there is a possibility that kbin.run is no more.
Ok. I have to ask: how many instances will have to go down before the majority of you drop the “you can always hop around to the next one” mentality and start thinking about ways to make the whole ecosystem more mature and professional?
to make the whole ecosystem more mature and professional?
Feel free to hire the devs?
You can and should fund the developers as much as possible , but I am talking about paying for the work done by the instance admins and moderators.
Oh fair point.
Feel free to hire the admins then!
Wait, that might have come out wrong…
Is there a solution to make the whole ecosystem mature and professional?
Certainly having everyone on one instance isn’t the way to go.
Implement OpenID? Or logging in with web3 (blockchain)? Or maybe account backup on google drive?
Any solution is better than no solution
Is the problem account making or data having persistence/backups?
Or is the issue having an account on service A, service A dieing and then when you create an account on service B you have to start over again, so we need to improve account portability?
I guess I also wonder… Is that a real problem for Lemmy? For Mastodon where you follow users sure, but does anyone care about their Lemmy account?
We could have a constellation of smaller service providers, like we do for email nowadays. Everyone talks about Gmail+Outlook having 80% of the market, but we all forget that the tail still exists and that is made of hundreds of independent companies which make a healthy living charging $20-$50/year.
And what’s stopping that from happening now?
I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that servers die because they are difficult to maintain. This is perhaps especially true for kbin/mbin based servers.
I suppose for enough money some might be willing to maintain, but I’m not sure it’s that simple.
Well damn, another kbin is down.
Oof. Worst way to go. I mean, doing so for personal accounts is fine but that’s a lot of collateral in form of the users there. People always say to spread out over instances, but then shit like this happens. Most users don’t want to run from one instance to another because the admins decided to stop (or due to other issues with them).
I guess that explains the 500s here on Fedia?
The question is when fedia does the same? It’s as if these instances were hosted by extremely unstable people.
Jerry has been pretty good at communicating so far. Even back when it was kbin he announced early that they might have to switch to Lemmy because of all the issues, before finding out about mbin and switching to that. Mbin has been a little bumpy too but updates and fixes come in frequently and as a user you can feel the platform changing and evolving too. So I’m not too worried about fedia just vanishing from one day to another.
Well I started on kbin.social, migrated to kbin.run…
Are there any other servers anyone would like me to ruin?
lemmygrad.ml, hexbear.net, truthsocial.com, x.com, etc
I started using Fedia.io
As of a few minutes ago I’m getting a 502 Bad Gateway error and having flashbacks….
I mean I am running thebrainbin.org and gehirneimer.de and they will not go anywhere, pinky promise
My home instance was kbin.run, and when I found debounced (its admin) was an Mbin maintainer/contributor it made me feel good about the lifespan of the instance. Now I don’t feel so good… if they dipped without any warning, so can you.
And they did this a few weeks after they put up a “how is my driving?” check-in post about how users felt about their server running, and I said it was going well… pretty sure I also said something about being grateful they were long-running, and talked on other places on the Fediverse about how reliable kbin.run was… all signs pointed to the instance having longevity.
Wonder if they just got hacked or something, because it really was out of nowhere, with no warning signs like Ernest had.
Kind of upset because I don’t mind hopping accounts, but I had a magazine there, !otomegames@kbin.run. I had just started it new a few weeks ago, moving from its longer-lived iteration on kbin.social because I was unaware kbin.social was down. And now if debounced does not come back I’ll have to make yet another new version of the community. Does not set a good precedent, “will I have to put up with constant new versions to follow this community?” The most appropriate place would be ani.social but I’d also probably have to make yet another Lemmy alt to mod it properly—things like reports do not seem to federate properly unless your account is on the same instance as the community you mod. And I really do not want to give Lemmy more users at the expense of Mbin. Lemmy is already the big guy, and we want more diversity on the Fediverse. So I can probably just remake it on whatever Mbin instance I end up on.
Kind of upset because I don’t mind hopping accounts, but I had a magazine there, !otomegames@kbin.run. I had just started it new a few weeks ago, moving from its longer-lived iteration on kbin.social because I was unaware kbin.social was down. And now if debounced does not come back I’ll have to make yet another new version of the community. Does not set a good precedent, “will I have to put up with constant new versions to follow this community?” The most appropriate place would be ani.social but I’d also probably have to make yet another Lemmy alt to mod it properly—things like reports do not seem to federate properly unless your account is on the same instance as the community you mod. And I really do not want to give Lemmy more users at the expense of Mbin. Lemmy is already the big guy, and we want more diversity on the Fediverse. So I can probably just remake it on whatever Mbin instance I end up on.
Sorry for this, it was a nice community.
I can absolutely understand that. I was very surprised as well as I stated often 😅 I can only tell you that I’ve been running my mastodon server a little longer and I commit to the mastodon server covenant (I think that is what its called). But if you have any doubts you should join fedia.io. Jerry has been a reliable admin for years and years (of all kinds of services)
I just made an account on Fedia, but I’ll sign up for brain bin as well later. I think my username might suit that instance.
You’re like a threadiverse nijū hibakusha.
After I kbin.socials constant issues I moved to Leemy.world and like it a lot better. I miss magazines as opposed to communities, but it’s pot-ato po-tato and there don’t seem to be any outages.
Where you also on vlemmy.net and iusearch.fyi?
Same. I had literally just recommended .run a couple of days ago. This is getting really old, honestly.
Fedia.io is managed by an admin which has a long story of managing fediverse services, you should be safe.
I’ve had the same path; started out on .social, then moved to .run. Now I’m on fedia.io wondering when I’ll have to scout out a fourth.
Well, it could be you, or it could be me, as I’ve hit the same waypoints.
fedia.io wasn’t taking sign-ups at the time I went to kbin.run, but they are right now, so that’s where I’ve ended up this time.
If this one dies too, I guess I’ll take the jinx with me back to Reddit and see what happens there.
I had just remembered my .run account like a week ago after instance hopping. I had set it up last year in-case blahaj lemmy imploded.
