172 points

The reason this is done is because you can see everything your browser is doing, but you can’t see everything an application is doing without disassembling it.

I want very much to go back to websites. Apps are stupid.

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53 points

the reason is children. for some reason the most recent generation of kids requires apps instead of sites. god forbid they have to remember an address.

just look at the fuckload of people who cant use lemmy without an ‘app’

this is one of my peeeves

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36 points

My high school computer teacher once ranted about this to us. He said the younger students are lacking the basic concepts of computer stuff. They are spoiled too much to not even know what a file browser is.

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14 points

That’s the parents fault too for not teaching the kids.

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5 points

He’s the computer teacher. Maybe he should teach them about computers

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18 points

One of the reasons I like apps for Lemmy is for notifications.

Coincidentally, one of the reasons companies like apps is for notifications.

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16 points
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Your mobile browser supports notifications per site like an app. It even supports custom icons per site when the notification pops up.

You don’t even know if the telemetry leaving your phone to the app server is using TLS encryption, you just let them hail-mary football-throw send it.

I don’t understand why we insist on bending over and freely giving away our data to fucking apps.

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One benefit an app for something like Lemmy offers is significantly better customization.

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4 points

thats a copout for the site sucking. lemmy looks like someone forgot the css. one of the reasons i chose mbin, its not fugly and very user-configurable.

no app required

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8 points

If it’s a service I use regularly on my phone like Lemmy then an app usually does provide a better experience. The UI is usually better optimised and they tend to load faster. However if I’m only using it once, or if I’ve just visited your site then stop trying to get me to use the fucking app! That goes for Reddit as well, I have the app installed but if I’m just trying to view a post because I googled something I don’t want to be forced into the app

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I mean, I think part of it is because they grew up interacting with apps because parents were, mostly rightly, restricting their children from use of the greater unrestricted web. Every modern parent I know had children who knew which apps on mommy or daddy’s phone they were allowed to touch - their games or youtube kids or whatever. These apps provided easy safeguards for parents to rein in their child’s internet experience. Even if these methods weren’t perfect in their attempt (Elsagate and all that), this was still good practice for allowing your child access to modernity in the times you couldn’t fully devote your time to overseeing their activity with relative confidence they were probably not watching wildly inappropriate content.

In a perfect world parents and educators would also be devoting time to teaching their child to navigate the internet and allowing them monitored (with physical eyeballs, not tracking) online browsing time, but I don’t think we can rightly fault the kids for not having received that. Rather than grumbling about the situation, I think we’d be better served accepting it for what it is and instead approaching the topic from a stance of: how do we teach them better behavior and help them unlearn these bad habits?

edit: typo

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You don;t need to put “edit: typo” in your comment. /lh

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6 points

I’m not a child. But I already have an entire OS running on my phone. Why would I run a browser on top (with all of its UI clutter) so I can use an app.

If I’m going to use an app often, for more than a couple minutes each time, I’m gonna use an app. If I’m just visiting a site for the first time, or I’m just going to stay there a couple seconds (search engines), I’m using the web browser.

Browsers are for browsing the web. Apps (run by the OS, not by a web browser) are for doing things.

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Browsers are for browsing the web. Apps (run by the OS, not by a web browser) are for doing things.

hahahahhahhaahahha

im deep in the corporate, non-app web-based environment. this comment is so out of touch. i get that its your POV, but its not even close to the broader reality that most apps are just packaged websites and that browsers are nearly fully virtual machines and incredibly capable.

again, the apps exist generally because they want to capture more data than the browser allows (they are exploiting you). theres very little functionality that cant be run in the browser directly.

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6 points

A large quantity of apps are thinly disguised browsers “stuck” on a specific web page and with extra tracking and data collecting capability. I’d wager all shopping apps are this.

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3 points

They just haven’t seen the light yet - I feel like most people from every generation are app’d up.

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1 point

fair

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1 point

Apple brainwashed us with iPod 3Gs and apps

Also people can use Lemmy without apps, it just doesn’t have all the same features in the UI which is why people use wrappers

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1 point

I prefer using Lemmy with an app because apps are better designed for my screen than an website. It’s kind of rare finding an website that looks good on portrait.

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1 point

right, the lemmy website is garbage. many others are not. i have zero issue using mbin, accessing lemmy content without an app on my mobile device in portrait.

no app needed, but its because mbin is designed as modern sites should be. dynamically scaled to the requested interface.

again, if your website isnt absolute garbage no app is required.

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7 points

no they’re brilliant, for exactly the reason you said.

I would also like to go back to websites, which are much less evil.

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147 points

I hate that websites will purposely block a perfectly working website feature if it sees you’re on a mobile just to refer you to their mobile app.

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32 points

FUCK websites that require a login, i’m looking at you twitter, you need to be sued over this shit.

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15 points

Insta. Facebook. In fact all social media that only lets me see 3-4 messages before demanding I log in. Fuck. You.

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3 points

it’s actually so bad, i genuinely have started to not use the internet outside of like, youtube, npr sometimes, and wikipedia. And archive.org because it’s actually fucking useful.

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2 points

You can actually use Facebook in a somewhat acceptable way without an account.

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14 points

i wanted to download a singular PDF file yesterday, and apparently i needed to be logged in to do that? I’m not making a fucking account on whatever scribble.com is for a singular PDF that will help me find my Kojima-name wtf

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4 points

it’s even worse in the field of science, honestly fuck journal publishers, you can all eat dicks. None of you do anything important for humanity.

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7 points

Well Twitter is awful anyway, so no big deal…

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i would be inclined to agree with you, but don trump jr posted an image about tim walz drinking horse cum, and i just had to see if it was real. Because well uh. Obviously. (yes it was real)

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16 points

and that is when I just drop that company forever.

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12 points

Go to browser settings on mobile and switch on desktop mode. Fuck them sites.

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11 points

imgur is evil

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10 points

Oh sowwy, this splitwise feature is only available in the app. There’s just no way to make it work in a browser that isn’t the one our app wraps around, you gotta understand.

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113 points

this unironically

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An app for a fucking cemetary!? Nuh-uh

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28 points

I hear it’s dead now anyway.

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10 points

Laurel Hill is a historical cemetery with a few historical figures buried there. Actually, I think Adrian Balboa’s fictional grave is there, too. The app has audio tours and information about the architecture and stuff.

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5 points

could still be a website.

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But I don’t want a app to get audio tours.

I want a app to make their body spin 360 degrees. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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6 points

That’s how you get a haunted phone

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12 points

My most boomer opinion

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72 points

Most of these memes are ironic, but this one is actually true. These apps could just be websites, but instead they’re bloated spyware

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18 points

Many of these apps could just be menus.

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15 points

Even menu websites are chock full of Javascript for no reason. It could be a JPEG!

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2 points

Menus should be PDFs so they are searchable.

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4 points

Don’t get rid of ordering online, I have bad vision and like sitting for 30 minutes deciding what to buy and how much is way too much to spend on the food I’m getting

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4 points

As a programmer who used to fix accessibility problems with iOS apps, I’d like to say that one good thing about apps vs. websites is that apps are generally much better than websites for people with vision problems. But they aren’t! At least the ones I was fixing sure weren’t.

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69 points

Voyager app users

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14 points

Anybody who wants to offer me an open source app that doesn’t spy on me is totally fine, especially when the app kicks ass.

  • sent from Voyager
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7 points

Can you explain this? I’m a very stupid person.

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17 points

Voyager started off as a website(wefwef.app) but is now also an app

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6 points

website

.app

🤔

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Voyager’s app is still the website though

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Voyager is a Lemmy client.

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