If, like me, you’ve relied on Fennec as a more tolerable version of Firefox for Android, you may have gotten some bad news in the latest F-droid update cycle.

Fennec has fallen so far behind on updates that serious security patches implemented by Mozilla in Firefox haven’t been applied to the fork, and Fennec is therefore still breachable.

The developer responded two weeks ago that they were “short on time”, and there still isn’t a new, secure version available. This appears to be due to that recurring weak link in open source development: small teams, confronted by real life demands like time and money?

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More specifically Google made it difficult to update, if I am not mistaken?

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I could be mistaken, but since it’s a Mozilla base code and F-Droid distribution chain, I’m not sure where Google can stick it’s thumb in the pie.

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Mozilla relied on an Android NDK to build correctly, became no longer available right as a firefox vulnerability came out and the Fennec dev was away from home.

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“It’s fine” (or will be), just donate & carry on.

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Dangerous attitude when it comes to itsec.

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I know (& agree), I was saying it like exposing my flaw of laziness.

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more tolerable version

It doesn’t even get updates. What are you on about? 😂

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What do you find not tolerable in standard Firefox and what did this browser do that made it better?

I know firefox is rather memory heavy, but despite that it’s still my go-to browser, both for desktop and mobile.

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I think this is beside the point here, but as it says in the F-droid description, their build “has proprietary bits and telemetry removed”.

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Upstream Firefox doesn’t comply with FDroid’s rules (thanks to the ‘proprietary bits and telemetry’ Handles mentioned), so is only available from the Play Store or as a loose APK that won’t auto-update.

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This reads like “they only sell hamburgers at the grocery store, and they don’t sell veggie burgers at the hippie food store because they aren’t vegan”

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it’s also available from Mozilla’s repos and can be updated using Obtainium https://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/fenix/releases/

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Cool.

But I’m not adding another method of updating apps just for the browser. F-Droid is where my non-play store apps live and update from, and I’d like to keep it that way.

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obtanium?

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I’ve been using Fennec. Any one got advise on what would be the best alternative? And please explain why.

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There’s really no reason to go scrambling for an alternative, it’s a temporary problem.

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Mull browser is also available on fdroid. It is an even better (secure) alternative to firefox as it uses some of tor architecture, from what I know.

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I don’t know about tor architecture but it is more hardened

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What were its advantages over Firefox?

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Fennec F-Droid

  • removes ff telemetry,
  • allows about:config changes,
  • you can enable dev mode for your own extension collection,
  • and it’s completely open source
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Being installable directly from fdroid was what made me use it.

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I’ve been using Firefox install via obtainium straight from the Mozilla repo.

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You can update Fennec I heard, just not through the regular means.

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