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This is the best summary I could come up with:


Way back in 2015, Tesla CEO Elon Musk would frequently give his engineers an earful after his car company’s infamous Autopilot driver assistance tech nearly got him killed during test drives on multiple occasions — though there’s a chance its dangerous behavior may have been due to Musk’s stubbornness on how the technology should be built.

Per its chapter on the launch of the driver assistance tech, Musk would learn firsthand that a curve on Interstate 405 caused Autopilot, thrown off by the road’s faded lane lines, to steer into and “almost hit” oncoming traffic.

But if Musk wanted safer software, he perhaps should’ve listened to his engineers, who have frequently petitioned over the years to incorporate what’s known as light detection and ranging technology, or LiDAR.

LiDAR is essentially radar that uses light instead of sound, and Tesla’s competitors, including Google’s Waymo, have long leveraged it to help their autonomous cars “see.”

Musk, however, has insisted that Tesla’s cars only use optical sensors, likening it to how humans primarily use their eyes to drive, according to the biography, and as such, he’s been tepid on using plain old radar, too.

"We told Elon that it was best safety-wise to use it … but it was clear that he thought we should eventually be able to rely on camera vision only, "one young engineer who joined in 2014 recalled, as quoted in the biography.


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Good bot

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Good hooman

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89 points

Well autopilot, you know what they say. If at first you don’t succeed…

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12 points

Die, die again.

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67 points

go autopilot go!

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13 points

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

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157 points

Literally every single day we have idiots doing Musk’s PR work for free.

Downvote Musk spam. The billionaire doesn’t need your help ensuring his businesses stay in the 24 hour news cycle.

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33 points

Do you just go into every single article and spam this comment?

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59 points

He’s right though. We can’t go a day without some inane bullshit about musk getting posted. This event happened 8 years ago, it’s not even news. It should have “2015” in the title. This is a bad post, and I’m disappointed we always have to have these kinds of posts around.

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17 points

Lemmy needs muting filters so we can just mute anything mentioning Elon Musk

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Doing so would be a valuable contribution to the discussion and morally good so I sure hope so

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8 points

It’s not even especially an informative or interesting article. It just picks out one tiny little story from the book and puts a bunch of unnecessary padding around it.

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112 points

Counter point: If I didn’t hear how badly he runs his businesses, or how bad his company’s products are. I would have easily bought one or more of his products.

I have backed out of Tesla pre-orders because of the bad publicity, many reports of bad build quality, and terrible business decisions.

If this was a puff piece, I honestly wouldn’t have bothered posting it.

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Most people on the entire planet are aware of how shitty he is at this point. Everyone that would not purchase a product related to him is already not buying said product. There’s no more people to convince. Don’t act like a white knight while degrading the content in this community.

I swear this specific community is turning more people off to lemmy than any other. These type of posts are why.

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37 points

Most people on the entire planet are aware of how shitty he is at this point.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_consensus_effect

And

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/h45mt3xoby/econTabReport.pdf

Section 49, where 64% of people either liked him or didn’t know enough about him to have an opinion.

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16 points

My we are pompous today

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Last time I mentioned Musk in a casual conversation, this one guy kept going on and on about how he thinks he’s a genius and how Twitter will be so much better now and how he’ll bring us all into space and how people only don’t like him because he’s conservative. He would have kept talking forever if we didn’t change the subject.

My point is that lots of people don’t know how shitty he is. Some people live in an echo chamber where they don’t ever hear about that stuff because certain people want to sell a narrative where the rich man is competent and the poor people are just jealous. Others just aren’t very attentive.

Not everyone is you. It’s good that you know he’s shit, but you shouldn’t assume that everyone knows everything you do. It’s important that we dispel the myth that the rich and powerful got that way by being smarter than us. If it takes a hundred articles to do that, then it will all be worth it.

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20 points

Normally I would agree with you. But some of these comments here are dark humor gold, so I’m conflicted.

Sorry…

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Another prime example of how shitposting has ruined the internet. Who gives a shit if someone has a funny comment if the content is literally degrading the quality of this channel, lemmy, and the greater internet.

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If seeing the words “Elon Musk” really degrades your internet experience that much, maybe the internet isn’t for you. Unfortunately, he’s a billionaire, and he will be in the media until he dies.

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2 points

HUMOR ISN’T FUNNY!

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2 points

Unfortunately, because of him being a billionaire his PR is self sustaining and posts about him aren’t going anywhere.

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1 point

I checked the Business Insider news feed last week. Within 9 hours they posted 8 (!) Musk “news” stories. It’s ridiculous.

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-37 points

So he demanded that the driver assistance software be as safe as possible before public release? paving the way for full self driving 6-7 years later? is this a bad thing?

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If he demanded it was as safe as possible, he wouldn’t have refused to add lidar or radar capabilities.

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I thought the “needs lidar” debate was settled years ago? Lidar cannot read signs. It is also prohibitively expensive to put in vehicles. If you’re going to drive with a neural network you need as much training data as possible, which means as many sensors in as many vehicles as possible.

If your cameras detect something the lidar does not, you trust the cameras, every time. Lidar can very easily misinterperet the world. It works great for simple robots who need to know where walls are and don’t need to specifially identify animals, people, obstacles, speed bumps, construction zones, etc.

Theres also the simple fact that humans can drive just fine without having evolved a lidar sensor.

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18 points

Look at you just parroting Musk’s lies. Do you parrot his transphobic bullshit too?

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If your cameras detect something the lidar does not, you trust the cameras

Yes, but if the lidar sees something the cameras doesn’t, you trust the lidar.

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Exactly. Also lidar is important in instances where you need millimeter precision. Its useful for calibrating camera systems in self driving cars but in order to drive safely you don’t need that level of detail about the world around the car. It makes no difference if a car or pedestrian is 72 or 73 inches away.

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9 points

#fuckyourdividends

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For a multi-ton metal projectile that drives itself (a car), you want multiple data sources to draw a consensus from. Relying on one data source is a point of failure, and that’s not acceptable when you have the potential to kill not only the driver but others outside the car.

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No he ABSOLUTELY didn’t do that, because it’s very unsafe and he unleashed not only AP but also that total steaming pile that is “FSD”. Which is neither F nor SD.

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