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This implies Windows isn’t already enshittified, which is very much not the case.

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Start menu ruined. All the UI is garbage. Fucking OneDrive.

I’m over it. Shopping distros as we speak.

Edit - Making this edit from a fresh Linux Mint install. Cheers.

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14 points

I don’t even use Windows, and just reading about what’s happened to the Start menu pisses me off.

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I started with DOS. Upgraded that to DOS3. Then Win95. Then 98. And since then I’ve been trying to get back to that simplicity. Best or not is wholly subjective. But that’s what I want.

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I know i didn’t mind putting up with a lot of Window’s bullshit, but I’ll never understand why they removed the single button click to create a folder in the files viewer. They moved it to a drop down. Idk if I’m the outlier but 90% of the time I used file viewer was to create folders because it was just one click of a button, but they just had to take that away lol

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One of us!

Welcome :-)

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One of us! Gooble gobble! We accept them!

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Bazzite is the best distro, especially if you game

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The final straw was when win10 started putting ads in the start menu. The start menu is so broken and bloated…

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Is this an American thing? I have never seen ads in start menu in EU (Greece). Unless you mean some apps like Spotify which come with a fresh install, but I have uninstalled all of it.

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I understand the rage with the start menu and, even though I am indifferent to the ui, I accept that mist people hate it. But what about onedrive? It seems to be one of the worst features for everyone, but I just have it disabled and only use it when I want to. Turn off all backup features, move it to another drive and disable auto start.

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19 points

Maybe that’s where the loop starts.

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everyone say goodbye to the wonderful decadess of lean, efficient, bloat-free Windows we have known and loved up until Windows 11!

it’s been smooth sailing until windows 11!

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Windows 7 was the last good Windows. It was a nice polished OS that had the last decent search feature. 8 was a mess (it started without a start button) and then all the bloat/ads that came with 10 and above

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Windows XP was the last good Windows. It had zero bloat, and heck, it encouraged you to use an admin account as your daily account. It didn’t have those pesky UAC notifications, and it would allow you to install each individual Windows KB Update. It didn’t have that high RAM usage that the Aero design had. There was no built in firewall until a later service pack, but you could just opt out of that update.

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Windows XP was the last good Windows.

I think you’re really only remembering XP after SP3. XP in its original form was clunky, buggy and unreliable.

It had zero bloat

Wait are you trying to be funny?

it encouraged you to use an admin account as your daily account.

This is bad. You should not do this, especially not on anything connected to the internet. You should definitely not do this on an XP system connected to the internet.

There was no built in firewall until a later service pack, but you could just opt out of that update.

I’ve eaten the onion, haven’t I?

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5 points

Someday we will find Windows 9.

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8 points

Afraid not, because 7 8 9.

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8.1 can be considered 9

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33 points

How young are you?

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37 points

Younger than Vista, that’s for sure.

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Windows 8 has some great improvements under the hood. I especially like the task manager changes. But people couldn’t take the start menu looking different, broke their little heads. Shouldn’t have even mattered, the correct way to use the start menu is hit the windows key, type the first 4 letters of what you want to launch, and hit enter

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@the_crotch @Nyciferi do you want a bing search?
This is exactly how you get a bing search on windows 11!

No, computer, I dont want to see a bing page with a copilot analysis of all the things “note” could be, I wanted to open Notepad.

Now we’re just swearing and scaring the other people in the office.

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78 points

Windows has been shit waaaaaaaaay longer than any of those. MS always “fixes” it afterwards just enough to become usable

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To be fair, Windows has huge, maybe even unreasonable, demands placed on it for backward compatibility due to corps not wanting to dump their 30 year old legacy software. And to Microsoft’s credit, they actually manage to do that pretty well while maintaining a reasonably stable OS. Most of the time, anyway.

The increasing interest in using Windows as a conduit for ads and data collection is what they really chafes me and is the primary reason I’m slowly moving away from Windows.

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Exactly that. 7 was fine. I got used to 10 with tweaks. 11 will never touch any device I own. Fuck everything they’ve done to Windows in recent years.

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And here I am with older games crashing all the time on newer windows.

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Windows was shitty after the superior WinXP. I’d argue 98 was all I needed but XP was when disk scanning/defragmenting was baked in.

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Windows 10 will be the last version of windows

Introducing Windows 11

Liars.

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Winbloats was arguably the first one of this list to get enshitiffied. I remember being a 12 yo trying to find an alternative to winbugs because the microsoft account login was required. It’s got worse since then

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Yeah its the original example of enshittification for sure

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I’ve been here since Windows 3.0. I’m not sure when this mythical not-shit Windows was. There were a few I could live with, but none that were good.

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I remember Windows 3.11 as pretty decent.

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But Windows is unique in that it can fit a whole lot of shit in it. Way more than one could imagine.

Minecraft, Chrome etc are a 7 litre compost caddy of shit. Windows is a vast open country waiting to be turned into landfill of human waste.

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if you can manage to get the IOT LTSC windows 11, it has a ton of that stuff removed by default. it makes it much faster and saves drive space.

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The Win 10 IOT LTSC version does the same but better.

For those who don’t want 11 anyway.

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And it was bad long before then.

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When did Minecraft get Enshittified?

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Bedrock is pretty full of microtransactions, upsells, and ads, and the Mojang to Microsoft account migration for Java made a lot of people lose their accounts entirely.

But the core gameplay of both editions is still fine, and Java is consistently getting more mod-friendly with each release. You also don’t actually have to buy anything in Bedrock; it’s mostly just annoying.

I don’t really agree that Minecraft is getting enshittified, but I can see why others might.

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And the whole chat censoring thing, and Microsoft doubling down on banning players on all servers for chat content in their own private servers.

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bedrock was shit version from start, any respectable Minecraft player uses Java version.

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I would also prefer to play on Java, however cross-platform support with Bedrock works really well. And that is actually quite the benefit. That way I can actually for once play a game with friends that are on other consoles or even on mobile.

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Holup, they still continuing java version support?

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Yep

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You can avoid the transactions, but they really lure the kids in. I have to constantly tell my kid I’m not paying for that crap it’s exhausting

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and the Mojang to Microsoft account migration for Java made a lot of people lose their accounts entirely.

Hey, it’s me. I contacted support and got a list of info they needed to fix it. I responded with that info and got a reply from a different person with a list of info they needed to fix it. I responded with that info and got a reply from a different person with a list of info they needed to fix it.

Then I said said “fuck this shit” and gave up to never play again.

EDIT: You probably guessed, but I should clarify that it was the same list of info, verbatim, each time. Just copy/paste response without reading that I’d already supplied it.

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Windows was enshittified decades before it was even a concept. Grandaddy of enshittification.

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gotta maintain that backwards compatible enshitification

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when bedrock edition was introduced, I’d say

the marketplace, character creator and partnered servers all have very predatory monetization

thankfully java resisted enshittification for the most part

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When they forced you to have a Microsoft account, which inturn made me loose my Minecraft account.

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Can’t speak for OP, but I took a maybe ten-year hiatus from Minecraft and came back to find the were so baby more block types that it clogged my inventory and I felt overwhelmed and just stopped playing again.

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Damn, didn’t know that. I think I only played locally, but it was years ago. Do you need to sign in to play offline?

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unless you’re playing offline on a cracked version, AFAIK

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Yes. You can still use Pojav Launcher on Android for free, but to join uncracked servers you need to sign into a Microsoft account

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Micro$oft made some controversies on Minecraft (Minecraft owned by M$)

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