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Reason.com is a libertarian propaganda mill. This story is meant to pit you against the state so you can swallow their other bullshit.

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So you think this woman deserved to be arrested?

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What I am wondering is what this publication is leaving out of the story in order to sell their perspective on everything. Maybe it’s nothing and this really is just a DCFS gone mad (there are certainly cases in which this is true), or maybe there’s more to the story and they are just glazing over it to make things sound better to their point of view.

Either way, this is a Republican run state which is the party that likes to court libertarians so I am pretty skeptical of everything regarding this.

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Republican run state which is the party that likes to court libertarians

Hasn’t the last 20 years or so proven their actions very differently from their claims?

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Parent comment: this is culture war libertarian agitative propaganda

You: yeah but don’t you feel agitated? Please debate me on culture war shit

I think the only response you deserve is a poop emoji.

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You can bury your head in the sand all you want, but Republican fascism is now in full swing. You aren’t insulated from it just because you make smug internet comments.

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This is why you check the story against multiple sources. Just search “brittany patterson georgia” and you will find this has gone viral and there is tons of outrage over this.

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I haven’t found a story that doesn’t use Reason as their source. I only found one that tried to contact the police department for comment, but they hadn’t responded.

So we do still only have one truly distinct account of this story, which is the mom’s side of the ordeal.

Virality and outrage don’t make a story more accurate.

We don’t know why the woman who encountered the boy on the road called the police. We don’t know what the kid was doing at the time. Was he walking to the side of the road? Was he walking on the road? Did he seem “off” in some way that made it so that the woman called the police? Were there previous warnings that that road was dangerous?

Police set up a safety plan for the son, that involved making sure someone always knew where he was. Why was that done? Multiple people in the PD all looked at the case and decided this was the right course of action, why?

I’ll judge once I hear what the police says their motivations were. They could have well stepped over the line here. Or there were legitimate concerns for the child’s safety.

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I haven’t seen many references to Reason, and previous to this story I had not heard of them before. Most of the stories I am seeing are sourcing the mother. She seems to be doing a lot of interviews.

I never made claims regarding knowing the full story. Not sure anyone can know the full story until the other parties start talking. I was only responding to the claim that the story should be dismissed because of the source, and claims of what the sources motivations are.

I am supportive of reserving judgement for when more information comes out. I am just not supportive of jumping to the conclusion that because the linked article is from a questionable or biased source that it is automatically dismissed as fabrication and/or propaganda. Especially when there is so many organization who seem to be in defense of the mother.

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Does that make the actual story any less disturbing?

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The question is what they’re leaving out of the story. Maybe this is a full accounting and law enforcement needs to chill the fuck out. Maybe it’s not the whole story and law enforcement are doing their job correctly. Maybe it’s still an overreaction, but more justifiable. In any case, there is no reason to take Reason at their word.

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This is one of the problems that liberals create for themselves which cause the middle ground people to hate them. The liberals go too far. (I have no idea what I’m classified as - right leaning liberal, left leaning independent, or whatever.) The left wing needs to stay out of how parents raise their children, except for cases of abuse. This isn’t abuse. I’ve personally asked social workers, who were patients of mine, if the number of cases of child abductions have risen and every one of them have said no. It just appears that way due to our immediate access to news, social media, and Amber alerts. I would take off on my bike Saturday mornings. I would be away from home all day. I just had to be hone before the street lights came on.

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I don’t get you US americans with your political stuff, your terminology seems to be all over the place. Today democrats are libertarian, next day it’s the republicans. This is literally authoritarianism at play by definition, their liberties are taken away. And where does the evil left come from, that state seems to be run by Republicans, i.e. extreme rightwing.

I mean, ever since your election the whole world knows your politics is broken beyond repair, but this is still bloody confusing to read.

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LOL. Yes. I totally agree. That’s why I said that even I don’t know what to call myself. People question me on my views and I’ve been called everything from a tree hugging hippie to one step away from being an authoritarian. Who freaking knows. I’m for everyone minding their own business and your rights end when they start to step on mine. Marry whomever you want - that is of age, dress how you like, read whatever you like, do whatever you want to your own body, and don’t try to dictate your beliefs to me. The slow burn of our country started a few administrations ago. People are just now starting seeing the smoke today.

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Idk if you heard but liberals aren’t the ones trying to seperate families using law enforcement that’s a pretty standard conservative tactic. Telling others how to raise their kids again another conservative playbook. Idk what nonsense you are speaking is this one of those blame one side for what the other side is actually doing like grooming and pedophilia.

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ahh yes, the liberal DA, wait a second. republican frank wood DA, that can’t be right??? You must mean the sheriff then… but dane kirby is a republican too! But this is obviously a liberal problem, caused by the LeFt WiNg.

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Libberaallss!!! Good God do you even listen to yourself?

You just came to knee-jerk blame and hate. They have gone too faaaaaar!!!

Yes, those lefties who say you shouldn’t beat your kids and teach them to hate everyone who is different. Horrible people, just horrible.

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No, did you even read? 1) I said that I guess that I’m part of them. I really don’t know in today’s classifications. 2) I was talking about the over reactions by some liberials as an excuse and ammunition for the middle and middle right to point fingers and be pissed off. In which this article is addressing. I read the whole article. The sheriff and ADA are in the wrong on this case. The kid was fine. The sheriff should have never gone back and arrested the mother. And the ADA should not insist on the mother to sign the paperwork. As much as the left yells about the right over reaching, the left is doing the same in this case. I’m saying to both sides to stay out of family business unless it involves physical or mental abuse.

FYI, I voted blue.

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I am having a hard time believing you. In your response you still sneak in some left/right bullshit. I would highly suggest just not commenting on anything being left or right as it is clear your grasp on politics is infantile.

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Damn Hondurans! I don’t know what countries are or where I live, or what they have to do with this story, but those Hondurans sure do suck!

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I really fear for the family lives of folks living in liberal strongholds like Georgia.

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For real. I knew this shit happened in the south without clicking the headline

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What the actual hell is wrong with… Ah wait, its USA so why am I even surprised…

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The land of the “free”

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Hey ketchup is free practically everywhere

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We are a backwards people, apparently.

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“I was not panicking as I know the roads and know he is mature enough to walk there without incident,” she says.

The sheriff disagreed.

“She kept mentioning how he could have been run over, or kidnapped or ‘anything’ could have happened,” recalls Patterson.

Even if his mother was walking there too, it’s not likely going to do much to stop a car from running him over. She’d just be some extra mass to fling.

Kidnappings – and a number of other serious crimes – are usually done by people who are known, not random strangers.

kagis

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/zmldiz/til_there_are_only_between_150300_kidnappings_of/

There are only between 150-300 kidnappings of children by strangers each year in the US. The other 200,000 kidnappings each year are by relatives.

Even more lopsided than I’d expected.

And as for “anything” happening, I’d imagine that “anything” could have happened at home, too.

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Stop trying to make “kagis” happen

It’s not going to happen

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What does kagis mean? Google isn’t helping me

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Seaching Kagi. I used to use googles when I used Google as my search engine; now I use Kagi.

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I really gotta arm myself for the eventually of a sheriff disagreeing with me.

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Had the same gut reaction. And I am armed and skilled. FFS, the state is going to arrest me in front of my family for this bullshit?! Hard no. I’ll turn this house into a political SPECTACLE.

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If enough people draw the line, the line will exist. It’s just a hard personal sell and everyone generally will think that others just want them to draw the line and not themselves. Getting large numbers of people to “not let that slide” to discourage something is difficult AF

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I am hoping that this is in the figurative sense. I don’t think that a shootout would have improved her situation.

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It’s not about helping the situation. It’s about drawing a line and making it known that we are not to be abused.

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I’m genuinely surprised by these comments. Letting a child go out on their own is pure insanity.

Edit: I’m surrounded by survivorship-biased idiots.

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American suburbia has rotted your brain.

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Japan is insane then.

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Ironic that you would use a country that forces every employee to work late and then go out drinking with their boss every night as an example of a country that isn’t insane. A country where managers will harass you and then call your next employer in an attempt to slander you, should you ever dare to move on to a better job. A county with one of the highest suicide rates in the world.

Yeah, totally not insane. Give me a fucking break.

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How did we move from talking about allowing kids to walk alone in the street and public transports, to you talking about workers rights ? Especially since on this topic, the US is also very bad in regards to workers rights.

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Well, I guess half of Europe is insane then.

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Half of Europe is also looking at the political shit show going down in America and thinking, “that sounds like a good idea”.

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Aye, we also have plenty of stupid assholes. But so far we mostly only import the superficial stuff like huge pickups that don’t fit anywhere. Most people have no idea what life in America is actually like and American daily life is thankfully far removed. Like in the example of the subject at hand. Kids walking and taking public transit to school is a common widespread practice anywhere I went and lived, nobody ever would consider someone NOT DRIVING a strange sight that needs investigating.

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