145 points

I just hope federal services (like applying for a passport) don’t become Twitter-only after Trump appoints Elon as Secretary of Enshittification.

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Oof. Poor Americans. The 4 year shit show you’re going to have to put up with.

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Thing is, mate…fascists rarely stay inside their boarders. This is going to be the whole world’s problem in about 3 months.

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29 points

Maybe for the rest of our lives, however long that is…

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international us policy is very similar between republicans and democrats. you guys are already the whole worlds problem. 🌍🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀

im sorry but trump will be your problem. until the empire decides to turn up the violence dial again that is, which is something both parties do sometimes.

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Trump wants adulation, not conquest. Push come to shove you can get him out of the oval office by making him figurehead Emperor, as long as it comes with immunity he’ll accept.

On a scale of Mussolini to Hitler, he’s like 250% towards Mussolini.

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30 points

4 years if laws and constitution stay the same and are followed… first term he had people alienated into him who were at least slightly appropriated for their positions, this time people who has nothing to do with their positions are being appointed simply for being loyal to him… Let’s see if any of them won’t let him do anything drastic within 4 YEARS

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17 points

Cute that you think it’ll only last for 4 years.

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It’s more than 4 years. We just crawled out of Trump inflation and now are going right back in.

Dismantling and breaking is easy. They can do a lot of that in 4 yrs. Building takes decades.

There’s also a global effect. Would Putin have ever attacked Ukraine without a Trump term? How about Israel’s taking self defense into genocide territory?

America leads by example and the last example was an impulsive 3 yo with a giant military force and a dead diplomacy department in the executive branch. There’s permissiveness in that.

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Nah, most people are going to live their lives and see absolutely no effect from anything done. No single administration has the ability to totally fuck up the country in the amount of time they have. That’s why you get the big swings back and forth between the two parties. Also, the news is very good at sensationalizing absolutely everything and making you think that, oh my god, it’s the end of the fucking world. What are we going to do? Run around like chickens screaming with our heads cut off and shit.

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33 points

We know that Ukraine will be betrayed by the Trump government. A Russian victory will embolden Russia to further threaten Europe. This will also embolden China and other authoritarian states.

We also know a Trump government will stop climate action. Unfortunately, this will also signal to many other governments that they can do the same.

We also know that immense cruelties will be perpetrated such as the family separation policy of the 1st Trump presidency

But yes, if you are white, straight and middle class or rich, you’ll be able to think all is OK until such time as the authoritarian ascendancy led by China and Russia affects your own life, which might be a decade or more away.

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No single administration has the ability to totally fuck up the country in the amount of time they have.

Women in need of reproductive health services in red states would like a word.

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No single administration has the ability to totally fuck up the country in the amount of time they have.

Trump: “Hold my Diet Coke”.

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13 points

Rotflmao, you didn’t read project 2025 🤣

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3 points

Reagan.

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I’ve made a huge mistake breaking my personal rule to avoid all political content and I’ve regretted that immediately

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You mean head of DOGE? Because we live in the timeline where a terminally online edgelord with the brain of a 14yo and the body of a 54yo makes meme government agencies.

Anyway, get your passport now. They’re good for ten years, enough to last at least through the tentative end of Trump’s circus.

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14 points

The new online passport process is unbelievably good

They better not ruin it

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5 points

oh yah i just renewed using the new process, got my passport back in less than 2 weeks.

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5 points

Narrator: they ruined it

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2 points

Ooh, thanks for the reminder! Mine expires next year. Best renew it now before they fuck that up, too.

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1 point

Just tell all your friends to do a passport. It will be ready if shit hits the fan and they must leave the country.

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3 points

The fact that this is an actual possibility is absolutely hilarious.

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80 points

Bummer that isn’t mastodon but any inconvenience to musk is appreciated

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Actually not a bummer in my opinion, let people sort into different platforms based on their interests like we used to do with forums.

A fragmented internet is a better internet

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22 points

But it’s not fragmented. Mastodon is still the odd “vegan” option while BlueSky is becoming the main Twitterlike platform. Mastodon is still coming out the other end mostly the same.

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8 points

Yeah, and that’s a good thing specially for the reason I just mentioned

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I somewhat agree, but it’s not going to happen. If Bluesky wins this battle, they’re just going to be the dominant platform. It’s not going to spread out. It’s just going to migrate. A federated alternative would at least be spread out by design, though connected still.

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that’s not how the modern internet works and unfortunately i am forced to be on facebook because all 4 of my hobbies no longer exists outside of it.

if people moved to the fediverse instead of bluesky or such, then we’d actually be able to have a fragmented internet again - due to how the fediverse interconnects through federation.

which i think is the best selling point the fediverse have - no longer would users need to be on multiple services, they could just be on one, and still interact with the services across the fediverse. but unless there is a mass-migration of one single service to the fediverse, such as people choosing mastodon over bluesky, to be the dominant service - it’s just never going to happen.

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A fragmented internet is a better internet

I’m going to quote that at every opportunity.

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2 points

Actually feel kinda proud of myself for that one haha

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0 points

So, a Splinternet?

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I say this as someone who likes fediverse microblogging (Mastodon, MissKey, etc) it will never be Mastodon. Mastodon and its maintainers are staunchly against all the things that would make it a viable replacement to Twitter.

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13 points

could you elaborate for people who don’t use it?

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20 points

They don’t like algorithms. They want you to select which content you see.

That’s all I’ve got. Mastodon is a better, more open tech. And it’s pretty easy to get set up, relatively. It’s insane that companies haven’t jumped on it.

You don’t even have to quit Twitter. You can just post to more than one place and give people the option.

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10 points

Mastodon is, like, fine, but it has one gaping flaw that makes it utterly unusable for me.

Basically, the issue is you cannot be assured that any particular instance contains the entire conversation thread/replies, because they’re not necessarily sent to every server participating in the conversation.

Bluesky fixes that by the ‘firehose’ feeds federating out to the PDSes and providing complete reply chains, which just flat out makes it a better experience since you can actually see what everyone is saying, not just what people on servers you might be following already are saying.

It’s a giant stupid flaw in Mastodon (since other AP based platforms such as, for example, Lemmy don’t have it) and really should be addressed since it makes the platform darn near useless since why am I following people to only get half of what might be a useful thread?

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Why people cannot see that the core problem of twitter is not that it got bought by the asshole billionaire. It’s that the asshole billionaire was able to buy it.

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Wasn’t he forced to do so after trying to back out, or am I either imagining that or thinking of someone else?

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If I recall correctly he could have backed out but he would have had to pay I think 1billion as a penalty and worse admit things didnt go his way

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300 Billion dollar portfolio, 34 Billion dollar loss (~22 Billion after he writes it off in “taxes”) and he has his own right-wing media company chocked full of nutters.

I don’t think he cares much about the individual Billions much these days. Half his Tesla stock is securing his debt.

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It’s a little more complex than that. He, like, was buying shares, blew past the 5% ownership disclosure point, failed to disclose, was forced to disclose his stake. He was then offered a seat on the board, didn’t like the lack of control, and made a meme offer on the remaining stake to take the company private, tried to pull out, and was forced to buy the company he didn’t want to buy by the board of directors who didn’t want him to buy it.

He’s the recent Adam Conover interview with the details: https://youtu.be/sxG2Y3E0uEY?si=r0VMY7s3iZ9uaP39

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He also bought 9% of it and didn’t disclose it, IIRC that had something to do with it as well.

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1 point

That isn’t relevant to the comment though.

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Okay.

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2 points

Surely that could never happen again though! /s

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53 points

It should be Mastodon. This is the same shit with a different name

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There was a good explanation about why not mastodon the other day. It basically boils down to Bluesky is just an easier transition.

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Yeah, that’s what I heard from my microblogging colleagues too. They tried Mastodon during the first wave of Twitter exodus, found it too frustrating/difficult, tried Bluesky and stuck with it ever since.

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Mastodon is more of a protocol than a single service. It succeeds/fails on those terms, in the same way the old Web1.0 protocols did. Which is to say, you can’t enshitify a thousand micro-sites at once like you can enshittify one big site that’s under central control. But you also can’t do things like navigate, search, and socialize efficiently.

Mastodon is successful in large part because it isn’t. When you let a single cartel of corporate psychos run a Mastodon account like they would a Twitter or Facebook, you end up with Truth Social (literally just a Mastodon branch instance).

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ActivityPub is the protocol though. Mastodon is an implementation of the protocol.

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That’s an interesting perspective. Do you think the same about lemmy? While also decentralized using the sameprotocol, it seems reasonably efficient to me. I’m from a small instance from my country, and the global content is easily available to me.

I just have a lot of trouble explaining how it works to people who aren’t tech savy… this is what I consider the main issue withthe fediverse as a whole.

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Do you think the same about lemmy?

I think it depends on how the federated sites are administered going forward. We’ve already seen bigger sites - like Threads, for instance - try to integrate into the overall ecosystem. And I could see a future in which one of the larger instances - a .world or .sh.itjust.works - is too much for a handful of amateur admins to handle. Hand off the instance to a venture capital firm and you could see rapid enshitification.

I just have a lot of trouble explaining how it works to people who aren’t tech savy…

I’m reasonably tech savvy and even I’d struggle to tell you exactly how it works. How is .world hosted? Is it load-balanced or otherwise optimized? Who controls registration and which other instances does it integrate with? How do you find a list of active instances to federate against? Who do you even talk to in order to federate with another instance? What does the API look like and which instances allow you to crawl them? How do bots integrate with the environment and what can an admin do to limit them? No idea.

There’s a bunch of things I think I should be able to do but I can’t. For instance, signing into .world but only surfing content that’s hosted on .sh.itjust.works.

There’s also a lot of petty politics. Admins deciding on a whim who to block, whether it be individuals or whole instances. Waking up one day and suddenly not having access to a dozen of my favorite subs, because two admins are feuding, is not particularly fun. I never have a problem like that on BlueSky or Instagram.

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Very accurate

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Bluesky is (in theory) federated, but I think you can’t run your own server yet. We’ll see if they keep their promise.

Its protocol has some improvements over ActivityPub, for example you can use a domain name you own as your username even if you’re not hosting your own instance, and your user identity is portable in that case - you can move to a different instance but keep the same username.

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They took crypto bros VC money.

Do we really think they’ll allow mass federation without getting returns on their investment?

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It would be an abdicaton of the duties of the people in charge of running the business of bluesky to not create leverage points where serious monetization can occur.

Like seriously… that is called Not Doing Your Job and usually leads to getting replaced by someone who will.

I feel like it is too easy to get stuck in the weeds discussing arcane details of a massively complex system such as ActivityPub and bluesky and the virtues and faults of those details while ignoring the much more easy to predict and understand truth that decentralization is fundamentally at odds with monetization or consolidated control.

Investors in bluesky coughed up the money for the same reason any sane person invests large sums of money…to get more money.

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They’ve followed through on their promises so far, and you can actually self-host pretty much the whole stack today:

https://alice.bsky.sh/post/3laega7icmi2q

I’d perfer for mastodon to take off personally, but really at this point both are good options and worlds better than twitter.

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I wish some entrepreneur had instead created an amazing fucking Mastodon instance and put all that marketing and engineering dollar into the platform. But you can’t own Mastodon so you can’t ever sell Mastodon so those types of folks will never invest in Mastodon. We could just say “fuck ‘em” but they have done a serious job of monopolizing the time of all the talented people who know how to make something like this go.

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What’s the difference, really? Aren’t they both decentralized microblogging social networks?

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One is a product with investors selling itself on promises of decentralization (bluesky), the other is a genuine community tool (mastodon) that actually provides decentralization.

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Bluesky is mit licensed, if it goes bad what’s to stop a fork? Once there’s interop between the protocols will it matter at all?

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BlueSky isn’t decentralised yet. Right now the only thing that is decentralized is data storage. You can’t set up an independent federated instance yet. They promise they will add that feature, but it hasn’t happened yet.

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Countdown until it turns out that everybody associated with any competition to Musk’s companies just so happens to be a criminal Trump siccs his DOJ after: 5… 4…

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I wouldn’t discount the possibility that bsky is backed by the same dark money pool that bought twitter. putin found that it’s way too easy to buy elections worldwide just using social media. They’ll never give it up.

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