Here’s a snapshot of the data from the research paper:

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Link

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The research paper is available through OP’s link

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Basically perfectly lines up with the “10% energy” rule from high school bio

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No offense but let’s just skip processed garbage and just learn how to cook and eat healthy, taste full, food.

I don’t care about the arguments on how it is easier to aid people stop eating meat or whatnot. It’s just over processed junk food nobody should be eating.

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on the other hand, plant based nuggets are delicious!!

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I’ve had 6 different kinds and have gotten wildly I’ll every single time. Idk what the fuck they’re putting in the nuggets, but it’s bad shit.

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Because why?

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Which part?

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Why should nobody be eating processed food?

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I like the idea of plant based meat.

The issues it has are

  1. Cost

  2. Processing

  3. Market

The first problem is solved with more companies making more meat and competition so we can ignore that as it’s inevitable to come down.

Processing though is hard to ignore. 1 pound of ground beef is MORE HEALTHY for you than 1 pound of impossible burger. Just looking at fats and sodiums.

The final problem is market! Who is this for? Do you really think that something marketed as “just like meat in every way” has an appeal to a vegetarian or vegan that has been with their diet for 2+ years?? So meat eaters, are expected to make the LESS healthy and more expensive choice

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As far as market goes there are plenty of people who want to become more vegan but just can’t completely kick meat. This is for them. You also have people like a friend of mine that have meat alergies but still miss being able to eat meat. All in all more oprions is never a bad thing.

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Who is this for?

People who want to be vegetarian/vegan, but not give up on the taste and feel of meat products entirely. That is a lot of people.

Also, the whole “processed” thing is a bit overblown. Meat replacements are in large parts healthier than your typical highly processed foods.

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Meat replacements are in large parts healthier than your typical highly processed foods. While that may be true, are they healthier than regular meat?

To reduce the environmental impact of our diet, our family cut down; a few years back; from meat with every evening meal, to meat 3 nights a week. It didn’t take long to get used to the change, and out diet probably became healthier for it.

We are lucky, in that we have the time to prepare most foods from scratch. There is very little ultraprocessed food in out diet. These meat alternatives give me pause, I like the idea of plant based meat alternatives, but the amount of processing to generate the product is concerning.

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Also, the whole “processed” thing is a bit overblown. Meat replacements are in large parts healthier than your typical highly processed foods.

Do you perhaps have a link to a study that says that converting peas into impossible burger yields food healthier than actual meat patty?

Because all I can find says otherwise.

Heck, there was even a SouthPark episode about it.

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No it isn’t. Processed food is the worst thing you can eat hands down, extremely bad for you and hard to digest for your body.

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How will that advice have any effect on the environment? That’s what this article is about.

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LOL your comment goes against the data right in front of you. You see that meat is the problem, and that processed plant based alternatives are not. Yet you decide to say the exact opposite.

We should be cooking more natural and less processed though, I agree. But implying processed plant based junk food is worse than non processed meat is completely incorrect.

If I misunderstood your argument, excuse me.

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In what part of my comment have I advocated for meat consumption?

What I’m trying to convey, with obvious very little success, is that processed foods should not be option for any diet and even less if a person is moving towards or on a meat exempt one.

Processed foods have been demonstrated, ad nauseam, to not be a good option for anything, due to the amount of additives being put into it.

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this is not about junk food or eating healthy. it’s about environmental impact. your home cooked meat is still not environmentally friendly.

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So if I opt for not eating ultraprocessed vegetable matter nor meat and instead base my diet on fresh vegetables, grains and other unprocessed vegetable food sources I’m not being environmentally conscious?

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are you hoping to grow your own vegetables? then yes. if not, you’re still feeding the industry. it’s not like the environmental impact starts and ends with the processing.

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Processed does not mean bad. A carrot smoothie is processed.

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We can say you are technically correct, which is the best kind of correct, but it is not in that sense I mean processed.

I don’t intend to see people eat all their food raw (although some do go that route; my respect, more power to them) and cooking tends to make things more digestible.

But industrially processed foods are not healthy. Yes, exceptions exist, like frozen vegetables (and even then, some companies add preservatives to it) but those are exceptions, not norms.

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Why? What makes them unhealthy?

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Purity tests just make adoption of positive change slower.

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No offense, but this fucking bullshit about us solving the climate crisis through small personal action while massive polluters continue INCREASING THEIR CO2 OUTPUT and fucking sucking up all available freshwater while they keep fucking telling us to change our meals is fucking absurd.

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None taken.

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Overall, plant-based meat uses 79 percent less land, 95 percent less water, and produces 93 percent water pollution. Efficient, low-impact meat alternatives also produce 89 percent fewer greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions and 89 percent less air pollution.

Uhh

Overall, plant-based meat…produces 93 percent water pollution

Wut

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It’s called a typo.

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Yeah, very unfortunate. And I’m not sure what its supposed to mean

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93 percent less water pollution

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