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The Mediterranean diet doesn’t exist, these countries have longer life expectancies because they’re bad at reporting deaths and their governments think that they have a bunch of 110 year olds.

Of course, the dropping life expectancy in the US is almost certainly due to depression and lack of healthcare.

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Source: https://theconversation.com/the-data-on-extreme-human-ageing-is-rotten-from-the-inside-out-ig-nobel-winner-saul-justin-newman-239023

The researcher who debunked these so-called “blue zones” received an Ig Nobel prize this year.

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That’s just the unusual prevalence of 100+ year olds, in the so called “blue zones.” Overall country life expectancy statistics aren’t thrown off by that type of fraud as much, because the vast majority of people don’t live anywhere close to 100, and these specific blue zones are a very small overall portion of the larger country.

For the most part, we can observe a correlation between wealth/income and life expectancy, where the blue zones are outliers on that general trend (both long lived and very poor). So there’s no reason to believe that these small communities are poisoning the overall stats in any significant quantity.

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Yeah thats true. And I agree with the overall idea of better health care = longer life. Just wanted to reinforce that the whole “Mediterranean diet” thing is somewhat debunked.

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The sociopath capitalists want us poories to be jealous of their concierge medicine based longevity to feel superior, but jokes on them, they made society so shitty and desperate that we see premature death as peace at last!

Checkmate, owner class!

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Heaven forbid life expectancy factors be TWO things!

Obviously easy access to healthcare AND a non corn syrup based diet are important factors in determining longevity.

Edit: Does anyone know what this category of logical fallacy is called? Basically the fallacy where a person incorrectly tries to attribute an outcome to a single cause.

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In East Texas the further one is away from Houston the less their life expectancy. We all eat the same stuff, I think. The difference maxes out to 5 years average less per person, near Louisiana, but if you look at the actuary stats it’s a straight line correlation between medical center distance and how long we live, on average

This honestly is repeated for many states in the USA. The metro areas have same life expectancies as Europe and Japan, but it’s balanced out by rural lack of access and fewer preventative cares.

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Look up food deserts and reconsider whether urban and rural citizens in America have the same diet.

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Food deserts do exist in many places, but majority of people in my area need vehicle access to get any groceries, or work. One usually does not walk down to the local dollar general.

And with vehicles come access to real grocery stores

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It is a lot easier to survive a heart attack and stroke if you can reach a hospital or comparable medical service in a reasonable amount of time.

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Yes, that too, but the way it was explained to me is that high blood pressure, diabetes and easy to diagnose diseases which make up the majority. All solved by regular checkups

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It is not two things, it is several things. Life expectancy in the US is lower mainly because of one thing though.

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Yes but life expectancy has been rising in those countries despite worse diets and obesity rising. So it seems access to healthcare is a stronger factor.

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Reductionism? Oversimplification?

Einstein supposedly said “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler”

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Causal oversimplification is a specific kind of false dilemma where conjoint possibilities are ignored.

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Move more. Eat better. Have better access to medical care and no stigma in using it.

There was also an article a while back that most “blue zones” (I think they were called) are probably BS with inconsistent and bad measurement.

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Avg life expectancy at birth in the US is 78.5 years, and the highest avg life expectancy in the EU is Switzerland at 83.4 years, which is a difference of 4.9 years, not 15. Metabolic disorders driven by diet are absolutely the biggest contributor to mortality in the US. You should see the disgusting shit these people are willing to put in their bodies over and over. A lot of people just don’t remember not feeling shitty and are completely unaware their diet contributes to feeling bad.

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If you are comparing a single country in Europe to the US the comparison should be at the state level.

Mississippi is the lowest state and close to 70 years in 2020. So if the comparison is the lowest US state to highest European state then you get a gap that is close to 15 depending on what year’s data is being compared.

A better comparison would be all of the US to all of Europe since we vary so much from state to state just like Europe varies from country to country.

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It would make more sense to compare the highest states/countries to each other and the lowest states/countries to each other, but even then you could keep comparing smaller regions and still just not come up with what you’re looking for. In the US, there’s way more poverty and people who subsist on absolute junk food 24/7. On the other hand, the life expectancy in NYC is over 85, and in my county in Texas it’s 82. There are lots of factors that go into this, and the meme above misses the mark

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100%

Metabolic syndrome is the modern plague

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