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I mean its also the better food, American food is so stuffed with pointless corn syrup that Americans who spend time in Europe consistently lose weight even if they don’t change their eating habbits, the UK is going the same way so fast that I’m turning into a vegetarian because the meat in my price range is genuinely becomming cyberpunk levels of bad (It basically just tastes like starchy mush with no resemblence to meat in flavour or texture at this point)

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The sociopath capitalists want us poories to be jealous of their concierge medicine based longevity to feel superior, but jokes on them, they made society so shitty and desperate that we see premature death as peace at last!

Checkmate, owner class!

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It’s both? Mediterranean and Japanese diet are said to be the healthiest diet. There is a reason why Mediterranean and Japanese are the longest lived in comparison to everyone. If anyone isn’t convinced, compare with the Polynesians. They also eat lots of fish and coconuts like the Japanese, but they are some of the most obese in the world due to their wide adoption of ultra processed and fast foods.

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Turns out it is all bullshit anyway. The Mediterranean and Japanese diet fads were based off reported life expectancy figures. It turns out that the longer life expectancy is due to poor government records and widespread pension fraud in these areas. A Nobel prize was awarded for uncovering these issues. A number of other studies that purported that olive oil was key to a healthy heart were later retracted for bad science.

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I heard this about the Japanese super centenarians but I have never heard it about France. Interesting.

There is also the whole “red wine is good for your health” bullshit from France too…

Not being obese, sedentary and full of processed food and soda is the key IMO, plus healthcare obviously.

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And apparently westernized diets are catching up with the Japanese, so much so that there are cases of people in their 90s still going strong, but taking care of their decrepit children in their 70s.

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It’s thousands of tiny little things, pushing and pulling lifespans up and down.

As the screenshot notes, it’s both diet and access to healthcare.

It’s also other lifestyle factors, like amount of walking or driving, amount of alcohol consumed, tobacco use, etc.

It’s social and economic factors, like income, education levels, employment status, type of job, disability status, marital status, number of close friends.

It’s mental health issues, and related statistics like suicide rates, substance abuse rates, etc.

There are environmental factors, like environmental exposure to certain hazards or pollution, sunlight exposure, altitude, certain illnesses isolated to certain climates, maybe things like localized microbiomes (although those are also correlated with foods eaten and things like that).

There are also genetic factors for individual families or potentially ethnic groups.

And perhaps the one that can’t be ignored entirely is just plain old recordkeeping. Some places have high rates of people living past 100, but don’t seem to have much in the way of a lifestyle or environmental explanation, and may more accurately trace back to unreliable birth records 80+ years ago such that people might be mistakenly reported as living longer than they actually did.

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I heard about a study that women who own horses live longer. The comment below was "if you can afford a horse you can probably afford health insurance. It isn’t the horse "

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Essentially yes but it’s not the underlying cause, as it wouldn’t also be true in places with free at the point of use healthcare.

The group “women who own horses” will, on average, be wealthier of course. However, it will contain an abnormally large group of people who can afford not to work.

Wealth is the biggest indicator of life expectancy. Adjusting for healthcare costs, the change happens when people earn enough passively to not work or significantly reduce their hours to a very small number.

Imo, the answer is “we’re all forced to work ourselves into early graves, unless you can afford to live off of other people working themselves into an early grave for you.”

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By aspiring to own a horse or live by the water or whatever, you can accidentally afford healthcare too!

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Always wanted to ask, what are the countries with accessible medicine? Could anyone recommend?

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