31 points

Just let me work remote, thanks.

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9 points

For 3x the money! Sign me up but I would need a pretty bad ass contract to jumpship!

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From what I’ve read about working at Chinese tech companies, you will not get to work remotely. In fact, you will be required to work in an office for 10 hrs a day instead of coming and going as you please.

Just look at the TSMC factory in AZ as an example. Taiwanese work expectations are not very compatible with how top US talent wants to work.

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6 points

Taiwan is not China.

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taiwan is china, its just that its occupied by us-backed libs rn.

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0 points

Agreed, I wasn’t exactly sure how well it would translate countries, but it was the first solid thing that came to mind.

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4 points

They’re a big believer in 996, so 9am to 9pm, six days a week. Sadly, this is creeping into western tech too, but is commonplace in China.

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45 points

Those perfidious Asiatics, offering competitive salaries to experienced engineers! Very anti-competitive. I know what we should do - we can quadruple down on harassing researchers and professionals with Chinese origins. Heck, anyone vaguely Asian will do.

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I found this line very funny:

State funding for Chinese companies enables them to offer salaries beyond what Western companies can pay.

Source?

ASML made €8 billion in net income in 2023. TSMC, $30 billion (not Western, but mentioned in the same breath). I’m sure they could scrounge a few coins from under the couch cushions to match salaries if they wanted to.

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But if they offered higher salaries, how would shareholders afford to buy their third yacht?

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18 points

So true, but also y’all did the Chips Act and some of the most heavy handed protectionism seen this century. The fuck you talking about

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They should bombard me with job offers

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Didn’t see any specifics around hours in the article though.

Is it twice the pay for twice the working hours? 996 or whatever they call it?

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If you’re a top engineer (or any similar senior position) for a western company, you ain’t working 40 hr/week. 50-70 hours a week is going to be the norm for that type of position in the west as well.

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Well the work takes 20 hours per week in any case. It’s just a matter of if the hour sheet is getting 40/50/60/70 marked in

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I don’t know what tech companies you worked for, but when I was working for a software company, I was averaging 45 hours in a client IT position, and all the software devs/engineers were definitely working at least 55-60 hours. And that was during normal periods: things definitely went into crunch mode around version releases and client go-lives. As far as I can tell, this is true across the broader industry.

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8 points
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Several companies like TikTok still work similar to this. Culturally, I doubt it’ll stop any time soon

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2 points

based

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Honestly based. The west has long relied on international brain drain (caused by imperial wars and neo-colonialism) to accumulate the “best and the brightest” and put a stranglehold on the tertiary/quaternary sectors. It’s amusing to see the shoe on the other foot, especially after the western tech giants have worked so hard to suppress tech worker wages.

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In fact, the West gobbling up skilled labor is a factor of imperialism and underdevelopment. Labor is the superior of capital, so the loss of a skilled engineer is always worse than whatever remittances they might return home.

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