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What is the web integrity API?

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It’s an API for web integrity. Thank me later

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can you explain this further? what does this integrate that’s not yet integrated in web?

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It makes sure you’re running an approved browser with an approved OS on approved hardware and Google controls it all.

Basically, say goodbye to Adblock, video downloaders, startup search engines, accessibility tools, and Linux.

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122 points

Basically drm for your browser

Fuck that though

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this is the most batshit insane proposal… I hope nobody supports it

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if google microsoft and apple support it, that already covers over 90% of the market

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8 points

Don’t worry, people will certainly make bypasses for that shit

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and what kinda of thing does this protect?

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I’d guess it’s first gonna be used for streaming TV shows and such. After that it’ll probably be used for absurd things

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Ads. To be precise this on it’s own provides a way for servers to be certain of the environment the pages run (browser, plugins, os). Protecting ads or other functions come from servers refusing unattested configurations or configurations they don’t like (i.e. running adblock, running firefox, running linux).

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Malware, malware encrypts its code so researchers cant crack into it and antivirus cant anilize it. Google is accedentally sponsoring malware

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Notice they are DRMing text and computer code, WSJ and malware brokers are gonna really happy, everyone else had their DRM fix with multimedia

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66 points

Some fucking greedy cunts at Google having a vision of internet being accessible only by “approved”(Chrome) browsers/clients.

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They want to approve the whole environment, including os, even if virtualized or not

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The whole stack will need to be approved. approved browser running on approved OS on approved hardware. Good luck browsing on Linux. The end of user software choice.

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22 points

V3 manifest got too much bad press so they had to hinder it’s ability to gimp ad block.

So now their trying another approach, this time they will probably develop and push this proposal out, and have multiple adopters before anyone can do anything about it. See also: WebHID.

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A system for websites to request a proof of the “integrity” of a user’s browser and underlying OS/hardware, and “attesters” to check this “integrity” and provide the proof. If that sounds vague, that’s because it is. What “integrity” means is for the “attester” to decide.

Google would of course be one of the major “attesters”, and could just deny the proof if you installed an ad blocker or VPN for example. In this case you would likely not be able to access the website anymore, because your device is deemed as “untrustworthy”.

So it’s a way for big companies to decide who can still use big parts of the internet and who can’t, based on whether it would make them money.

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every day that passes we are closer to the day using TOR is not an option.

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Orwellian doublespeak for DRMing and paywalling the web.

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Orwell was never refering to the economics in 1984. It was a dystopia of an autocratic government in an ever autocratic world, that fully infected and controlled every aspect of everyones life. Whether that is for capitalism, or communism wasn’t part of it.

Also free capitalism is an oxymoron. Capitalism is inherently unfree and the less regulated it gets, the more imprisoning it becomes to the normal people.

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Chad

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If only Firefox would have a bigger userbase. I still use it, but the vast majority of people is on Chromium.

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120 points

I switched this week.

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I’m switching today. Right now. Because of this post.

^^maybe
EDIT: okay. I think I’ve done it. I’m currently editing this comment from Firefox. I already had Firefox installed. But now I have pinned it to my taskbar. I went to import my bookmarks from chrome, and found that I also had the option of importing other stuff from chrome, too (bookmarks, passwords, history and autofill data). That’s sweet. My bookmark bar has the same bookmarks in the same position. I also installed ublock origin, like someone recommended. And I am going to give it a go. If it all goes smoothly, I will unpin Chrome from the taskbar.

Thanks everyone for the encouragement!

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39 points

It’ll cost you nothing at all.

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16 points

Please switch

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88 points

Install ublock origin and open YouTube.

You won’t regret it.

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19 points

No maybes. Do it.

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If it would help with the transition, Firefox has a first time install option to move over all of your bookmarks. A super cool reason to have a firefox account is the ability to transfer a tab from one device to another. Best part is that Firefox isn’t profit motivated like Chrome so there’s much less bullshit to deal with

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I highly recommend putting your passwords in a paid manager. Bitwarden is awesome. I’m also testing out Protonpass which just came out. If you’re looking to move more services from google to an alternative, give Proton a look. Been running their email, calendar, and VPN and I’ve been pleased. Its still missing a few things but its improving everyday.

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7 points

same!

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I use firefox as my sidearm browser on my work computer, but I literally just made it the default on my personal computer

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Firefox is awesome now. It was great, then it lost out a bit to chrome, but it’s back to being awesome. If anyone’s reading this and isn’t using Firefox, please switch!

And importantly, their import mechanisms are great. A typical user can switch with basically no effort. Next time they ask you for help, switch your parents too, and your siblings, and that neighbour who keeps referring to the internet as “the google”. Set them up with Firefox and ublock origin and they’ll be set.

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it’s back to being awesome

What changed?

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Depends on what you mean by “when”. From my POV for the last few years, it has an amazing plugin ecosystem (almost complete interoperability with Chrome’s), a revamped/minimal UI, performance optimizations, a better DX for web devs than Chrome, and an active R&D (Firefox View, new plugins button, better personalization, etc). I’m missing a few things but those are the ones that stand out to me.

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it’s back to being awesome

What changed?

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The person you replied to was mistaken. Firefox isn’t “back to” being awesome because it never stopped being so.

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I’d solely use Firefox if jetbrains had better JS debugging support for it.

So for now I use edge for that at work.

Also I really like the tab sleep and vertical tabs features on Edge.

But everything is Firefox on my personal machines

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264 points

Mozilla is such a treasure.

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We must plunder the treasure so no one else can have it!

Oh, wait

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The treasure is being bankrolled by google, so I mean it’s someone’s Treasure that’s for sure.

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The fact that this is even remotely controversial is stunning. Like does google not understand its not just home users that use adblock, but also businesses as well? Because google is so fucking bad they don’t understand there are viruses in their fucking ads. If this shit goes through, you think anyone’s dumb enough to believe google will be on top of the virus shit? Fuck off google

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ya, using the internet without an adblocker is a security risk because Google enables scams across its services.

How about they learn to clean house first before shitting on the internet lol.

incompetent company will do incompetent things.

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I think the FBI recommends the use of ad blockers for personal safety, let me find that link real quick…

Edit: FOUND IT, Third point under “Tips to Protect Yourself”

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Let’s just go back to the good old days when the web worked without JS. That would remove a massive amount of attack surface. Might seem a bit shit without the interactivity, though.

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7 points

More like money hungry company will do money hungry things

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Ad blockers are more important to security than virus checkers.

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You really think they don’t exactly know what they are doing?

They are an ad and data company, you blocking anything isn’t something they want to make possible.

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