114 points

Also might be the most unethical coffee in the world too.

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I read once that a major reason the coffee is supposed to be good, is that the animals (in the wild) tend to seek out the ripest, healthiest coffee beans to eat. They’re abundant (prior to human intervention), so why settle for less?

But then we cage them and force-feed them whatever, so they’re just medium (or low) quality beans to start with. So even if you look past the cruelty, it’s not even the quality of coffee the reputation suggests.

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75 points

Iirc correctly the monkey cats ( or however they are called ) actually just prefer a specific coffee plant that is more rarely used as the ones used for the vast amount of coffee in the world ( e.g. robusta or arabica). However, if the beans of this variation are used directly, it tastes exactly the same. There is a scientific paper about this. Long story short: people are drinking shat out coffee for no good reason. What is even worse, it is tried to hold these monkey cats in cages to produce more of this coffee. Again for no good reason. But people fall for the marketing pr gang that the coffee is handpicked by those animals, digested and shat out and they would not go for “yeah we need just to use another plant” because it wouldn’t be so exklusive anymore…

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3 points

What type of bean? I’d love to try an ethical roast of it.

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1 point

Can you remember anything about the paper? Authors, journals, anything?

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Aha da hat wohl noch jemand methodisch inkorrekt gehört, wollte gerade genau das gleiche schreiben ^^

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52 points

What do you mean? Force feeding caged animals to shit coffee beans isn’t ethical?

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Please tell me this is a joke

People aren’t really drinking cat shit right?

EDIT: WHAT THE FUCK

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54 points

Vast majority of it is just cheap coffee labeled to be this and marked up for tourists / gift market. Have tried it, just tastes like cheap old coffee. It’s not something genuinely sought after by coniseurs.

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14 points

That makes this even dumber. If it actually had a good taste i could sort of understand it, in a honey sort of way. Sounds like it’s just a silly novelty.

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10 points

It’s always about the story. Same reason restaurants get 2 and 3 michelline stars. It’s about how pretentious and fancy you can make everything surrounding the meal and not about the meal itelsef.

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10 points

I ate at a restaurant that sold this stuff. It was $85 a cup. I can appreciate a good cup of coffee but never at that price (monetary or cruelty).

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9 points

I saw it in a torréfacteur in Paris, it was about €70 for 250g of beans

They must’ve taken you for a right mug 😂

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7 points

It’s done for the aromatic flavors.

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15 points

Shit flavours???

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4 points

Hmmm, you can really smell the compost

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2 points

Yep! I first learned about it from The Bucket List…

https://piped.video/watch?v=1UU0UM1Lgpk

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31 points

Kopi luwak, also known as civet coffee, is a coffee that consists of partially digested coffee cherries, which have been eaten and defecated by the Asian palm civet (Paradoxurus hermaphroditus). The cherries are fermented as they pass through a civet’s intestines, and after being defecated with other fecal matter, they are collected.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_luwak

It tastes smoother and is good. Their digestion of the beans strips the outer layer of the bean and changes the flavor.

Is it better? Not really. I have had it in Bali from a farm and it was very smooth. Turkish coffee is better.

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7 points

It’s also animal cruelty.

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It’s no more than animal cruelty, then any type of livestock farming. What the fuck do you think you get your bacon from? You think the pigs are happy in overcrowded, dirty farms? Do you think the chickens that lay eggs are happy to be confined inside a tiny cage covered in their own shit? You think cows like to eat feed corn day in and day out shoved full of antibiotics? Do you think any of the animals that we use for any type of products are happy to be slaughtered after being fattened up?

If you’re gonna argue animal cruelty, you better stop eating all animal products, and become a vegan. Better yet why don’t you farm your own food and don’t buy anything that comes from modern agriculture because all that shit is covered in pesticides, GMO’s, and all kinds of other nasty shit.

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Do you really think the best way for the world to change is adopting an all or nothing attitude?

What improves the planet more? 1 person becoming hardcore vegan or 1000 people eating meat one day a week instead of seven?

See the problem?

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22 points

Wtf dude. You give me all of this for a comment with four words?

You either have some vested interests with kopi luwak or you have some serious anger issues. Either ways you need to calm your tits down.

And FYI, all you said might be true but that’s still no reason for anyone to justify kopi luwak. Yes, there are a lot of other ways in which animal cruelty is happening in this world, but if everyone keeps blaming each other then none of it will ever stop.

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10 points

Nah because the animals are fed exclusively coffee berrys and are extremely malnourished

At least in normal farms it’s encouraged to properly feed the animals

Also why are you so angry Who hurt you lol

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27 points

Two droppings, one cup.

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5 points

Its a legit thing

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25 points

You can make some for yourself.

Step 1) Eat a bunch of coffee beans

Step 2)

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47 points

You can make some for yourself.

Number 1) Eat a bunch of coffee beans

Number 2)

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5 points

Username checks out

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