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This is like, save the children war fund, or some such nonsense naming scheme.

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Big fucking sigh. I’ve been an Android user since the T-mobile G1, and I have ferociously defended the platform against iPhone for that entire time.

Is there a 3rd option? Or do I have to learn to love the enemy? I won’t be a part of the problem with privacy just because I’m too lazy to change.

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Use custom ROMs

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Use Graphene, Lineage or DivestOS (fork of Lineage) . Graphene and Divest enable you to sandbox all Google BS if you need it, and Dos uses their own we view from Mull.

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What about bank apps and nfc? Do those work or are you just out of luck if you need them on graphene or lineage?

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No attestation = no Google Pay

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Honourable mention for Sailfish OS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailfish_OS

The commercial version comes with an android emulator.

It’s not recommended for non-technical people, it sometimes crashes, it has random bugs that will drive you insane, and currently the weather app can’t connect to the service that provides the weather data.

But:

The people making it are not seeing you as the product and you will be free of all the bullshit.

… and i love it :)

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I have ferociously defended the platform against iPhone

Why tho

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Because Apple are: closed system, unrepairable, proprietary, refuse to adopt standards, elitist and exclusionary, and generally less flexible and customizable. They are a baby toy, they are any recent BMW, and they are jerks about it.

And somehow, that’s becoming the better option over thieves and scammers with bad intentions. I may have to go with the assholes over the bastards. It doesn’t feel great.

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I get you, but calling iOS a toy just makes you sound childish and ignorant. I don’t use apple for the same reasons, but iOS right now offers by far the most polish, mature and thought-through experience. In the meantime, Android continues to change everything on a whim every couple versions to nonsensical defaults. The UI keeps getting worse.

But I just can’t stand the inability of customizing iOS. Google is strangling the platform, replacing FOSS features with Google counterparts, and if it wasn’t for Samsung and maybe a few other big ones, they would probably have abandoned AOSP by now.

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It’s not there yet but… https://www.pine64.org/pinephonepro/

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I love the idea, and would be willing to be an early adopter of a linux phone… but its tough to give up application support.

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The key difference between “Android’s Play Integrity API” and this new thing which they are no longer proposing to put in Chrome but into Android WebView instead is the remote part of “remote attestation”.

The article does not make it entirely clear, but the new thing looks to be exactly the same as the old Web Environment Integrity we knew and hated, but with a new name and temporarily exclusive to Android.

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I’m so glad there are devs behind things like Lineage, DivestOS and Graphene. I’m currently setting up a oh one using Divest without Google.

I’ll be buying some Pixel 5’s to get me through the next 5 years (my current phones are from 2018, and really fast with Lineage or Divest, and load a bunch of apps, and automation).

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A bit late… Something new might replace it but this experiment got killed a couple days ago already.

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Google is killing off its proposal for “Web Environment Integrity API” as a new web standard, though Android phones may still have to deal with it.

That is literally the first sentence of the linked article. I think this is one of the things how it comes back.

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Does Vanced really use WebView for playback (the link the article provides suggests it’s used for sign-in)?

Aside from forgetting to mention Revanced which is very much alive, I have doubts about the article. It feels like the author realized his headline doesn’t work anymore so came up with something plausible sounding…

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Vanced and Revanced use(d) a fork of MicroG for sign-in. MicroG is a FOSS implementation of Google Play Services and other Google app APIs but with minimum tracking. It uses the website to sign in, which I imagine is rendered with WebView because the app is so small.

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