I can only see this going into a very dystopian path. Based on their actions, I donโt trust these companies, their security practices, nor their privacy policies. Why would I give them my biometrics? And my full palm, at that!? Hell no!
Forget about privacy, this is just fucking dumb
One point of failure that canโt be replaced if stolen?
This wonโt ever take off, and will most definitely die out quickly in favor of literally any other technique including just embedding an nfc chip and battery to your palm surgically. Which I probably still wouldnโt be thrilled about but
Iโve see where you can pay with your fingerprint at some venders. Itโs a similar concept, in terms of single point of failure. Regardless, I hope youโre right.
E: **mostly right. I wonโt embed anything in my skin for payments. CC or cash or phone NFC (and I donโt like that one for itโs security implications). Thatโs it.
I wonโt even use phone NFC for payments. Card, cash, or Iโm taking my business elsewhere.
Who needs an NFC chip when you can just place a nail shaped NFC sticker on them and gel paint over them? We donโt need implantables; those could get copied anyways and cause the need for unnecessary surgeries to replace them as well.
Buy the tags; apply them to your nails and paint them any color you want; pair them to your phone and use appropriate username + password + 2FA + Fingerprint combos to authenticate to your financial institution.
Lost a nail? No big deal. The tags donโt carry financial data; they just provide a URI to the merchant; which can ping your phone/smartwatch and ensure that you are:
- Present at the location.
- Not too far away from pay terminal.
- Have not signaled to your devices you are under duress. (Spoken keyword and/or excessively stressed biosigns)
- Have not blocked spending by tap.
This makes me irrationally angry. I feel like if I saw that shit in real life I would have to put in effort not to smash it.
If you donโt like it, donโt use it. Itโs extremely presumptuous to assume your extent views on this matter is the only right view to the point you think itโs ok to enforce that view on everyone else.
Itโs just part of the creeping evil of surveillance. Fuck giant corporations. They shouldnโt be allowed to basically fingerprint their customers and put it in a database.
Why is surveillance inherently evil? Secondly if other people donโt care about this, who are you to deny them what they consider a convenience and donโt have a problem with? What gives you a right to impose your beliefs on others?
I donโt get the issue with it ? Why wouldnโt fingerprint be the best way to pay for stuff ?
For the same reason this isnโt a good idea. Privacy aside, when your biometrics get leaked (and they will), youโll have no recourse, because biometrics are literally a part of your body and you canโt change them.
How do biometrics get leaked ? Can they 3d print my finger ? What difference does it make to all my dsta getting sold on the daily ? I donโt see how it changes things
They donโt need to 3D print anything, only to โside loadโ the hash (itโs more complex than that, but thatโs the gist). If your ID is tied to your finances, and it gets leaked, you canโt change your ID. Your finger/palmprint is always your finger/palmprint.
The #MythBusters know why this is not a good idea.
How do you open your phone? Finger print?
The fingerprint in the phone is stored and verified locally, no way this is the case here.
bro, come back to me when most stores accept touch emv payments. lol, like each fucking store is gonna know what to do with a fucking palm scan when emv is fucking forbidden magic.
Haha! Good point. Itโs been โmandatedโ a couple years ago, right? Itโs barely anywhere
Interesting regional differences. Itโs incredibly rare that I find a store that doesnโt support tap-to-pay
