cross-posted from: https://lemmy.whynotdrs.org/post/494473

Compared against the predominant incumbent social media platforms, the fediverse is very small.

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There’s no way reddit has more “real” users than Twitter // X. Maybe with bots but half the shit on reddit is a Twitter screen cap or repost.

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Not to mention a supermajority of reddit users are inactive. Recap has shown that even with minimal activity, you end up in the top 1% of reddit users.

That means reddit has roughly 5 million active users. Meanwhile nearly every person that creates a lemmy account, is active too.

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I suppose this is related to your “users are inactive” point but I also feel like it’s more common on Reddit to have multiple/alt accounts. Hell, in my time on Reddit I think I made 7+ accounts.

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Why? I feel like that would be more common on Lemmy than anything. There is an actual point in using different instances here, I don’t see any point whatsoever on Reddit.

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A couple of years ago I ended up in the 1% because of one single thing I posted 2 weeks after I signed up purely to generate some rage because so many subs needed minimum karma… Can completely attest to this.

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nearly every person that creates a lemmy account, is active

This is false. There’s about a 10:1 ratio of Lemmy accounts registered to lemmy accounts posting comments.

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I have five lemmy accounts and only post from two. That checks out.

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23 points

The 90-9-1 rule, 1% of users create content, for 9% of users to interact with (upvote, comment, whatever), while 90% exclusively lurk

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That’s a strange read on Reddit. I’ve heard people say this before, and it’s baffling.

Reddit is, and always has been, a link aggregator first and foremost. Of course it’s reposts and screenshots of others sites. That’s kind of the point. To bring you Twitter so you don’t have to actually be on twitter.

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14 points

I think Xitter has it’s fair share of bots…

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As always, you guys are way too fixated on size.

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Thing is, you have to measure from the user base on the underside, this graphic obviously uses the wrong method.

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47 points

Meh. Not like there are shareholders to appraise of growth…

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31 points

Here too there are misconceptions!

What’s important are the hard numbers, soft metrics like user count are misleading! Some may look large at first, but hardly grow with higher engagement, while in others engagement greatly increases the size.

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60 points

Lemmy alone creates more content that I care about. This is fine.

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Not always

Lemmy still doesn’t create enough content that I want

But I try to use lemmy more anyways

Hopefully more people will use lemmy more

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1 point

I wasn’t fixated on size when I met your mom

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6 points

So is my wife

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12 points

Yeah technique is really important too.

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28 points

It’s not the size of the ship, it’s the motion of the ocean.

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0 points

That’s true but it does take a long time to get to England in a row boat

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19 points

Yeah, and let me tell you… Facebook’s motion does nothin for me, as big as it is…

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36 points

Fuck Spez… amirite ? Guys?

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With the way this graph is looking spez is pounding your ass to the bone and is about to give you an aneurysm. fuck spez has been given an entirely new meaning

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Not really. Here’s some statistics from reddit itself.

If you even have minimal activity, according to reddit recap you’ll be in the top 1% of reddit users for that year. With that one can conclude that reddits true userbase, can not exceed 5 million.

Reddit in its usercount counts all accounts, including banned ones that have long been replaced by ban evasion accounts. This and the sites old age leads to grossly inflated numbers.

Want even more damning numbers for reddit? Well the maximum participation for r/Place (read, everyone who even as much as viewed the event. Not even participating.) Was 1.9 million. Considering how intensly it was promoted it is likely people would have clicked on the giant banner notification. That means out of the less than 5 million active users, 3.1 million didn’t even glance at the giant event that has been promoted with massive popups, banners and shiny symbols over the reddit page.

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1.9 million users is still one hell of a userbase more than lemmy will ever see maybe if some major events happen such as reddits rules getting stricter or mods getting more heavy on the ban hammer then we may see some more users join lemmy

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If you’ve been to Reddit since the API meltdown, it’s pretty clear that large sections of it were fucked by angry moderators, and still remain that way. I don’t think the fediverse was ready to take over, but Reddit very clearly has fewer people working for them for free.

Specifically, there are several subreddits where they used to be strict about submissions, and now they let anything mildly related in.

I’m honestly pretty surprised that they still haven’t recovered. At this point, I’m hoping that their mediocrity will continue to push people away until Lemmy can catch up.

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I think the struggle is that we still need to build more tools for the fediverse ecosystem. I’ve been building Lemmy frontends but it’s a big lift to make a world class experience for users, moderators, instance owners, etc.

Progress is being made, but I agree that Lemmy was not prepped for the wave of Reddit users.

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I agree

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4 points

This

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33 points

we really need to stop calling it formerly Twitter and just call it Shitter.

he ruined the platform, the people can ruin a name

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3 points

Call it twatter-X

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21 points

Xitter

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11 points

It was ruined long before he touched it

It just made it worse faster

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4 points

Twitter’s best days were about 10 years prior to Elon buying it

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