Looks like the admin for kbin.lol has some pretty valid gripes with the current status of Kbin. I have to agree, you can tell the platform is not up to speed at all.

Kbin looks visually great but the backend just isn’t there. Check out his statement, it’s worth the read.

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I have to agree, you can tell the platform is not up to speed at all.

It’s OSS, you can contribute to improve it. Otherwise just sit tight and wait.

There’s not a multi-million dollar VC investment back these projects, they owe you nothing. You (as in the wider community) contribute to improve it or you wait for the one guy to decide your feature request is worth tackling.

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Kbin is out of stock software?

(I don’t know what OOS means and at this point I’m too afraid to ask)

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Not sure if I’m whooshing myself but I think he means OSS (open source software)

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Nope, I should’ve caught that, thank you. I was like wow I’m in tech but you learn new terms every day. Lol

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Yes, edited

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Definitely it’s bad when there are many alternatives with many instances. Community will become fragmented

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No many alternatives does not fragment the community.

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Unfortunately it does. Imagine that some time ago, everyone was on reddit. Now the people who leave reddit split between many lemmy instances and kbin. In addition, some will stay on reddit.

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No it doesn’t. On lemmy or kbin or lolite you can have as many instances as you want across those platforms and the communities, comments and posts are all shared.

I’m on lemmy but I can post in kbin communities and interact with their users. I can view posts from lemmy on mastodon ( and the reverse once the devs get around to it)

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I am not saying that. Communities are not an issue. Issues are instances that have the same communities that are not connected.

E.g. if there is an F1 community on lemmy.world and a different one on lemm.ee, it’s an issue

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It’s a good thing, when federation is working properly. It spreads the load over many instances and the users can still converse across instance boundaries without issue.

So the community is the federated instances for all instances connected regardless of the software being used.

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yes, just it needs to be seamless.

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Kbin has only existed publicly for a little over two months.

Lemmy has been around for four years.

It’s rather significant imo that Kbin is on par functionally with Lemmy, and Kbin.social has higher active user counts then all but a few Lemmy instances. Kbin seems to solve issues faster as well in the several weeks I’ve been here anyway.

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From what I’ve read about lemmy it’s not in much better shape, the backend is not optimized for scaling up and is held together by wishes and prayers.

On one hand, I feel like there are software devs that would say that about literally any piece of software in production just to feel superior or because of their lack of experience. On the other… they are probably right. These are passion projects done in free time, jury-rigged in any way they could do it just to handle the absurd influx of new users.

We all knew that this is young tech being developed “live in prod”, of course it won’t work as flawlessly as something made by a corporation with 2000 employees over the last 10 years. Or you know, be as stable and reliable as Twitter, the biggest social network that even governments use, owned by a multibillionare geniu… ok that’s it, can’t do it more😁

I’m sure these issues will be ironed out eventually. Mastodon is in a pretty stable spot right now and hopefully kbin/lemmy get to a similar state in 6-12 months.

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+1!

Newer uses of the fediverse also don’t realise yet that Lemmy is older then Kbin, years older. Kbin has only really publically existed for a couple months.

I was here before any surge when there were about 200 users and Ernest followed everyone MySpace Tom style. It’s damn impressive how the site held up even when he had to introduce cloudflare protection temporarily. It was slow, but never crashed completely.

Some Lemmy instances did go down for a bit, even the bigger ones that didn’t had more synchronising issues then Kbin. I’m not trying to knock Lemmy by any means, but I think this goes to show that Kbin is alright if at a few months old, it can keep up with software that’s been around for several years at this point.

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I’ve got a long history in the FOSS community and if I banned everybody I disagreed with it’d just be me, a scratch kernel, and nano.

This 100%

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