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What’s the point of this statement? Both groups of things can be true. The economy of the US, as a whole, can be booming while simultaneously having those other things be true too. The economy isn’t a measure of how individuals are doing. It’s a measure of how well the bullshit of capitalism is working. Seems to be working as intended…

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You answered your own question. The point was to explain exactly what you also chose to explain.

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It chose to explain what I explained by making the exact opposite point? You’re not making any sense. Either that stuff is related to the economy or it’s not. You can’t have it both ways.

That’s like saying “Don’t tell me the Lions are doing well when tickets to their games cost $15/seat”. The Lions can be doing well and the seats can be cheap right now. One is not necessarily reflective of the other.

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You’re stupider than you give yourself credit for.

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That has absolutely nothing to do with the economy booming -that has to do with you electing legislators to enact appropriate legislation. That’s not a failure of the economy, that’s a failure of the voters.

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The American people voted for exactly this.

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Yes, but to be fair a lot of us were swindled into it. District moving, lies, misinformation, voter suppression, and many are working so much there’s hardly time to verify what’s-what. Then when voting day comes along the ballots are worded so obscurely that the average person has no idea what the fuck they’re actually voting for/against. I get lost in the wording at times as well!

I vote, and I vote for the best interests of the majority because I’m wired that way. Many others are… confused

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The stuff in the post isn’t really caused by any issue that you might vote for at the polls, but by politicians who may be gerrymandered into place. The child poverty increase is likely a speedy result of Rs killing the child tax credit, and covid assistance programs running out. The people getting booted from Medicaid is the result of income restrictions that were loosened during covid getting tightened again. Biden has tried student debt relief, but the supreme Court decided to overreach and kill his initial program.

I’m not saying that these things aren’t a problem, but that I think it’s likely that the people posting this kind of stuff are trying to frame it specifically as failures of the Biden admin, with the goal of getting people to not vote, waste their vote on a spoiler candidate, or vote for Trump.

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The economy doing well doesn’t mean out of control capitalists stop price gouging the fuck out of anything and everything

This post is fucking brain dead

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The economy is booming, but you also need to negotiate with your employer and switch jobs if needed. Unless your boss automatically gave your 10%+ annual adjustment, you are slowly falling behind.

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“Just switch jobs” is such an entitled attitude. There are so many reasons people can’t just change. So many employers who can’t or won’t negotiate.

Fuck off.

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Even if you are able to change jobs, your current employer is still extracting more productivity from you than they are compensating you for until you do change jobs … into another position where your next employer is still extracting more productivity from you than they are compensating you for, but maybe not quite as badly as the last one, so you “feel better.”

You’re still getting fucked either way, because capitalism.

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Can’t forget they have no issues laying anyone off in the name of shareholders values

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Yeah, those kids in poverty need to nut up and ask their boss for a raise.

/s

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“Yes, the economy is booming for your employer, and the country will continue to bend over backwards to ensure this continues. Yes, you’re going to fall behind ever more as extraction of wealth from Workers continues to stretch you thinner and thinner.”

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I am reminded of the old joke.

A worker pulls into the parking lot of his office. His boss pulls up next to him in a new sports car. The worker goes, “Wow! New car? Looks amazing.” The boss goes, “It is! And if you work hard, hit your targets, and put in some overtime, I can buy a new one next quarter.”

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Okay, first:

People got ‘thrown off’ Medicaid because it was temporarily expanded under the pandemic, and lots of the people that qualified under the expansion no longer qualify now that it’s expired. Yeah, I’m in favor of Medicaid for all–or Medicare, I can’t keep them straight–but this is disingenuous.

Second, 45M people in 1.8T student loan debt is a problem, sure, but who keeps blocking forgiving that debt? If you think that not voting for the guy that did everything in his power to cancel that debt is going to fix that problem, well, you probably shouldn’t have gone to higher ed. in the first place, because it didn’t help your critical thinking skills.

Is the economy we have now–under a Democratic president, with a Democratic Senate and a very slim Republican majority in the House–better or worse than it would be under a Republican (Trump) president, Republican Senate, and Republican House? Do you really think that all of the things listed in this short, misleading blurb would be fixed if Biden loses the election? Do you think that your protest vote for a Green or Dem Soc candidate is going to improve anything, given that we don’t have ranked-choice voting in national elections?

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I really hate hearing people who say they’re not going to vote for Biden because for whatever reason without realizing that not voting for Biden is a vote for Trump or any other Republican who will work against everything that will actually help people. Which is better?

Not only are you letting the other side win but the only way to get representation is to vote, if you don’t vote why would any candidate want to do anything for you? You’re no value for them.

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So, you feel entitled to my vote, and get pissed if you don’t get it?

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What a self centered and entitled little comment on your part.

Grow the fuck up you little whiny child.

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6 points

Do you think you’re replying to Joe Biden’s lemmy account?

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No just vote for who ever you want to win don’t waste your vote by not voting

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About your last paragraph, who said this was a partisan issue? Someone who agrees with your last paragraph could also agree with the sentiment that those who tell us the “economy is booming” are often ignoring issues that affect everyday Americans.

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It’s a partisan issue specifically because of who is spreading which messages.

Democrats are saying that the economy is generally moving in the correct directions, e.g., we lost a couple million people in the pandemic which lead to a labor shortage, opportunistic businesses jacked up prices leading to double digit inflation, but overall the unemployment caused by the pandemic is reduced, inflation is on the way down, and we’re doing better than we would have been doing otherwise.

Republicans are saying that the economy is trash, that everyone is hurting, everything is expensive and no one can afford shit. …While conveniently ignoring that they’re the ones that have been pushing all the policies that have led to this, while Dems have been doing everything they could to prevent a recession or depression.

If you blindly accept that the economy is bad without looking at why, then you’re biting the baited hook of the Republican propaganda machine.

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Democrat here. I’ll gladly say that the economy is trash and everyone (I know) is hurting.

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Democrat here. People pushing the positive economy messaging are just trying to get away with robbery. Don’t accept being a patsy because you’re scared of politics. I’ll still vote blue and still tell people when they’re full of shit.

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45 million with 1.8 trillion debt isn’t even a “problem”. The meme is just throwing out big number vocabulary trying to be scary.

That number averages out to 40k a person. 40k after 4 years of college with long term low interest to pay it is not done huge problem. The problem are for people who got scammed by for profit colleges and those with ridiculous levels of debt, and this administration is addressing those.

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In NL the govt switched from a scholarship-like student loan program to a regular loan program (which has been reverted since the start of this college year), and students racked up 60k debts over 4-5 years of study.

And that’s in a country where the government also sets the student fees (2k a year now, somewhat following indexed inflation), which means about 8-10k is for study. The rest is additional cost and due to stories of low interest (0% for years, but now it’s 2.4%) causing 18-22 year olds to be maxing out this loan to enjoy the student life and paying it off using the bank interest.

Then the 2021-23 inflation skyrocketed and that loan started going up faster than it could be paid off, as paying off is on an income-based monthly amount. Meanwhile, this loan does get subtract 1.5x from your potential mortgage sum.

Edit: all prices in EUR of course

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