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Yeah, I already noticed this in the last few days… my texts now show two checkmarks and a lock… at least when I text another Android user.

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You should also be able to swipe on the message to direct reply and send reactions too

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Make a public RCS API for Android. Stop trying to get people to use your app by withholding features from third party apps.

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Yeah I thought RCS was going to be this platform-agnostic service à la SMS.

I’m trying out matrix with my close family and it’s working great. Bonus points it doesn’t require a phone number or even a phone at all.

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Last time I tried to introducing my family to an alternate messaging that wasn’t the default app on their phone I started getting messages in both places with no rhyme or reason to why they would use one over the other.

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Yeah I thought RCS was going to be this platform-agnostic service à la SMS.

well in fact it is, but noone except I believe T-Mobile in the US and Samsung actually did it; everyone else just uses Google’s implemention because it’s a ready product and works great. well, except Apple, who doesn’t do it for their own bullshit reasons

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Samsung on AT&T used the carrier implementation of it at least on the S22, which is broke AF. They announced they will be moving to Jibe from Google, but no time line is available AFAIK. Until then we are stuck with a broken RCS implementation.

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Thanks you! I use Textra, it’s so much better than the stock app but Google never opened up their API. I believe for Google said they were going to back in like 2018 or something (if I’m not mistaken, which I could be)

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Textra was the best before rcs was launched. Id love to see them get their hands on an API for it.

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I tried switching to the Google app for a month or two. I ended up back at Textra. Turns out I care more about the user experience than rcs. Still, it would be nice to have rcs but I can live without it. But I agree, I’d love to see them get their hands on the API.

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That’s nice. But without some serious marketing they won’t get people off of WhatsApp in Europe.

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I don’t know how much better going to another closed system is. AFAIK it’s only Google running these servers and only their implementation.

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Yeah. I don’t really think it’s better either. I just think it’ll fall flat on its face like Google’s many many previous attempts at messaging unless they actually tell people it exists.

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Google’s RCS has 800M active users and it’s projected to hit 1B by the end of the year matching iMessage’s usage. Whether people actually know that it’s RCS or not, it’s been a pretty successful service for Google so far.

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I use RCS with all of my Android user friends. It’s always been turned on by default for us.

Not sure what you mean not many Android users are using it?

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“you won’t get shamed by iOS users anymore if Apple would just pick this up”

Meanwhile, Google Voice doesn’t even have it enabled!

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T-Mobile and Samsung have their own implementations (which are compatible with Google’s)

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Don’t worry about Europe, we don’t use SMS and we also do not want RCS.
We are perfectly fine using apps like Telegram/whatsapp/Signal.

The whole “green/blue bubbles” thing is USA only, keep it USA only please, thank you.

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RCS done properly would be nice. I’d very much like to not be sending my messages through meta. Google’s implementation, however, just trades one American giant for another.

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With an app it is just me, the app and whatever internet connection I have.
With SMS&co instead I have to deal with a system outside that, managed by the phone company and whatever.
Also apps are constantly updated, RCS standard will just become SMS2.

Even iPhone users use an app in USA, it is only USA android users that for some random reasons are still stuck to SMS.
Here I just open telegram or whatsapp and message with anyone, no matter the phone. Or discord, or Matrix…

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Yea. This concerns only stupid Americans and their obsessions with bubbles.

Us Asians also do not need stinkin’ RCS. We use WhatsApp.

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I’m European and I pretty much only use SMS with family members and such. It always works! But pretty much everyone in my extended family uses an iPhone which is annoying when I want to send or receive big media files. So it would be very nice if iOS started to support RCS messaging

I primarily use Discord with friends. I don’t think I have ever met one that uses signal or Telegram regularly. The only ones I know that use whatsapp are my parents. Old people mostly use Facebook messenger or maybe whatsapp I believe.

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I don’t think they care about beating WhatsApp, they only care about iMessage. WhatsApp doesn’t stop people from buying Android phones, iMessage does.

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As someone who currently uses Pulse SMS+ and has been looking for alternatives like Google Messaging, are there any major issues I should be aware of?

I liked Pulse since I could send messages from a desktop app, but I can’t install it on my work computer any longer.

I also liked the WearOS app from Pulse, but they discontinued it.

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The one bug that I’ve had for a long while now is the “auto resend as SMS” feature that’s supposed to kick in if the RCS chat fails, takes forever to work. It’s much faster to just manually hit the send as SMS option if there are issues going on.

It uses the Signal protocol for its encryption so they went with a well known and proven option, but metadata isn’t encrypted like it is with the actual Signal app apparently so it’s not quite as secure.

A good chunk of my family uses Android and all have RCS enabled so I get to use it a good amount and it’s been pretty solid for me.

Edit: the desktop app is actually just a PWA website so that might be able to get around your work PC’s restrictions on installing apps.

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Good to know. Thanks

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You probably shouldn’t send private messages on your work PC though.

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Google’s messaging app actually has a desktop browser based client that you can use to send messages from your computer. So that might actually be a good solution for you. I use it regularly and have no complaints about either the phone app or the web app.

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I’ll have to try that out, thanks.

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I moved to Google Messages when Signal dropped SMS support and it’s been fine. Most people I know who aren’t on Signal or WhatsApp are on iPhones, but there are a decent number who apparently have RCS so – perversely – Signal dropping SMS support had actually resulted in a net increase in my secure messaging.

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Makes sense. Thanks

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That is why signal dropped support for it.theybssid it was to increase security because users could accidentally be using signal sending regular SMS. The way you got lore secure is not how they advertised the removal, but makes sense that happens in some cases. Same thing happened to me.

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@Axion App says RCS is not supported on my device. Looks like I will be staying on XMPP.

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That’s actually strange. Google said a while back that all devices with Google Messages installed should be able to use it regardless of carrier too.

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I’ve seen this message before with a missing or outdated Carrier Services.

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