37 points

Apathy gets nothing done

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That’s what happens when you only have the choice between neo liberal and extreme right.

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Neo-liberal doesn’t mean what you think it means.

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to be fair, it doesn’t mean what anyone thinks it means

In scholarly use, the term is frequently undefined or used to characterize a vast variety of phenomena.

-wikipedia

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true, but both sides do need to be criticizeable, not just the worse one.

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US citizens need to destroy the first past the post voting system. It’s fucked and undemocratic and it needs to be replaced.

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It’s one of many things that need to be done to fix the US.

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The problem is that only people who came into power using the current system would have a chance to change the system. And why would anyone want to change the system that brought them to power?

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US citizens need to destroy the first past the post voting system. It’s fucked and undemocratic by design and it needs to be replaced abolished.

FTFY

https://web.archive.org/web/20230803021951/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/22/american-democracy-was-never-designed-to-be-democratic

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Criticizing is great, putting it like OP with “they’re the same, democrats just put on a hat” is dishonest and reductionist. This kind of thing actively causes harm and plays into the hands of the party that’s objectively worse for anyone that’s not rich.

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Criticizing is great, putting it like OP with “they’re the same, democrats just put on a hat” is dishonest and reductionist.

It’s really not. My favourite example is Roe v. Wade - how long did democrats have to fix it? How long did they use it in their campaigns in the lines of “if you don’t vote democrats, republicans will overturn it”?

Yeah, they’re the better choice, for sure, but they’re not a good choice.

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This kind of thing actively causes harm and plays into the hands of the party that’s objectively worse for anyone that’s not rich.

No, you.

https://truthout.org/articles/fascism-is-possible-not-in-spite-of-liberal-capitalism-but-because-of-it/

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10/14/liberalism-and-fascism-partners-in-crime/

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Right, we need to be organizing, protesting, and working to destroy the current power structure.

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The Republican one should also say no with Nazi flags, crucifix, and a gun

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This isn’t even false equivalency, it’s just blatantly false.

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I only see this argument made by conservatives. It is a deliberate attempt to drive a racist and LGBT-phobic wedge between the white working class and the Democratic Party. I have never seen a progressive person demand less support for the rights of minorities.

I also favor raising the minimum wage, making universities free to attend, and having universal healthcare - but LGBT rights aren’t the reason we don’t have those things. The GOP is the reason we don’t have those things, and it’s not like if the Dems said “Fuck it, arrest and kill the gays” that the GOP would suddenly support workers’ rights.

If you want to help the poor, vote out the party that says shit like this.

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Conservatives, and useful idiots.

The only people I see claiming both sides are the same are people who have interest in either democrats failing as a party, or the whole country failing and collapsing in general.

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Mhm of course! Third year into the Democrat administration and wealth inequality in the US keep reaching new staggering heights.

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Hmmm … and which party is running the House of Representatives that had the record for getting less done than any other in the history of the country?

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You keep telling yourselves; it’s the other teams fault! All the while the situation is only geting worse and worse for the working class

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Thanks Reagan

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And all the wealth inequality that happened during Trump?

Crickets from this guy

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It doesn’t matter what fucking team you hold on how do you not see that! Neither side are working for the little man in an oligarchy!

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Wealth inequality started with trump? News to me!

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Republicans: how about we make it worse.

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Meanwhile in reality:

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I take it back, that poor unionist on the right is about to receive a maximum power Biden Blast

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You are forgetting when he stopped the train unions.

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And then got them the sick days they were looking for after all of it. Listen, I don’t agree with strike busting, but going back after to get the workers what they need is laudable. His brain is rotted by neoliberalism, but he is trying.

I have no idea what tone I’m trying to convey here, and I find that funny.

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You’re forgetting that Republicans have NEVER supported unions and would jail every pro union worker if they could. Biden being anti union is suddenly the same as every Republican ever being anti union?

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No, but I sure wish we had better choices. It’s like someone giving you a choice between a meal of poison and one of shit logs.

I’ll vote, but can’t say I feel too great about our shitty system that leads us to such a dark place.

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we didn’t get everything ever so it’s bad!!!

Give me a fucking break

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I’d rather the rail workers got a break but apparently Joe didn’t agree.

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the only president to ever join the picket lines alongside unionized citizens

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