I am in the process of looking between repairing my phone or switching to a new one. And the no brainer evolution to the OnePlus 7 Pro I have is a Pixel phone. Pixel Phones are definitely not perfect, I know that the battery would fall faster than other phones but hey, that’s ok, google chip in it, possibility to go GrapheneOs, all good.

But the A versions only having 128 GB, and needing to pay 100 extra Euro on the Normal and Pro phone for 256GB is ridiculous, and not allowing me to add a SD card for that! Is insane I restarted my phone in December fresh from zero, and in the last 9 months I used 163 GB of memory. 48GB of it is my music on Deezer, for which I pay to be able to download “HIFI” files which I am not willing to trade for using less space on my phone, I work in a place with no 4G, I’ve got a few playlist I switch between. The rest is 25 GB of Pictures, 7GB of games. 44GB of apps.

Now the answer to this is “Well now with your Pixel phone you can use the Google Cloud, Google Docs blablabla”. Something insights by Google offering 3 month of Google one and 3 month of YouTube premium when you buy a Pixel phone. So much cloud that’s soo cool! And you can just redownload things when you need it. Well I don’t want to redownload my musics everyday when I listen to them, I don’t want to trade and limit what I would call normal use. I know not everyone will resonate with this, but the carbon impact on bandwidth used from cloud in 4G is important.

Normalise SD cards, Normalise not using the Cloud as a solution for everything


Update 2 Days later

Hey, writting here because this post has brought a lot of people to talk about storage of data on phone, which is quite nice. I am writting here just because a lot of comments are repeating certain points and It wouldn’t be useful answering to all of them if after their will be more comments saying the same thing.

I am not saying Cloud = Bad. It’s great we have a place out there where we can Store Data in case anything happens. I simply wish either brand gave us more choice on data capacity, seeing a Pixel 7a only at 128 gb ain’t cool, let me make a choice. Seing a Pixel & with 128gb or having to pay an extra 100€ for 256gb when a sd card is 30€ is not cool.

A personal server is in my plans, and it’s one of the projects I’m the most impatient to have.

I understand that I have a different use of phones then the average, I simply want to be able to adapt the tools I use to my different use.

I have taken the step to take a look at the storage in my phone by curiosity and to look with a different eye my consomption of Storage, and have deleted 3gb of games, and 3gb of apps that where useless. I’ve also started looking into my photos and took out 3gb of photos I had which where useless. And I think there is more photos I’ll delete, I am not done on that of course

My signal discussion are important to me, I am in a Long Distance Relationship, and discussions I have with my SO on Signal are the major part of my relationship, and I cherish them. I have set up signal so that it makes when charging at night a copy of my discussions, and when I have Sincthing, it loads the conv to a HDD Drive on my PC. That being said, in the floders I found bugged temp file from saves that did not end, for a total of 20 gb of Signal discussions (oof lol) which where deleted too. How ridiculus was it? Well in Storage>Files the weight of total files dropped from 20,68gb to 0,68gb

Anyway, I am now at 132gb :D! I’m not writting this because I am feeling attacked or to defend myself, just as a small update and because these are reocuring comment that’s all, i’m still anwering here and there if you arrive a bit latter to the post, it’s impressive from lemmy I feel to still be receiving comments and have a discussion that continues 2 day after a post. Usually on Reddit posts would die in 6 hours, and their where no dick’s in the chat. I’ve read every single message, and answers other people did

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“Only 128GB” - oh my, the self entitlement…

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Yeah I fully know a lot of people are on 64gb. My colleges at work are on 64gb, I am not writing this to trash at all on people with 64gb. It’s just that storage price go down with time. We can buy 1tb for SSD for 77€, I know you’ve got miniaturization but 100€ for 124 extra gb seems a lot

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Or 32, there are probably phones still for sale with 16. It hasn’t been that long since phones with 8 total (and an empty sdcard slot) were considered entry level.

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Do they even make phones with less than 128gb now?

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I guess budget phones. I don’t remember seeing a 64GB elsewhere

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25gb of pictures… I mean… So you need all of that stored locally so it’s accessible wherever you need it while you’re in the middle of nowhere in the woods or a desert?

44gb of non games apps? 🤔

You realise you might be a power user that just bought the wrong device?

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Yeah, this seems like a really weird complaint to me. My Pixel 6 Pro has 128 GB, and I’ve only just barely passed 100 GB used like a month ago, after having this phone for a couple years now.

I get that there will be niche use cases, but I feel like if you know you’ve got a niche use case, then you should probably be taking that into consideration when purchasing your device in the first place. For the average user, though, I feel like 128 GB is more than plenty.

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“it’s not a problem for me so obviously everyone else is just weird. Anyone who does anything differently is doing something wrong.”

Ok.

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The problem is OP complaining and then contradicting themselves by confirming that the reason they don’t have enough space is because they hoard things on their phone… As I asked them, why would they need to have 25gb of pictures available when they don’t have signal to access their cloud storage?

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I literally acknowledged the fact that niche use cases exist. Are you that desperate to argue on the internet that you’re going to ignore half of the comment you’re replying to? Jesus Christ, get over yourself.

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my laptop at home has 64gb emmc, and nearly half of that is basically windows, firefox and vlc (lan playback).

it’s a consumption device. not a storage device.

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they mention not having network access, so they want to consume stuff without network.

There’s a reason many streaming services offered downloads later and not as the first feature. It’s because people want to download things. Not everyone has constant WiFi around them.

You can consume downloaded things.

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4k video fills storage up quick. Why slap 17 camera sensors on a phone if there’s nowhere to store the data? I personally throw movies/tv on mine when traveling for me and my kid. 100GB is about 7 or 8 movies in 1080p.

This is like claiming you’ve never needed a truck to haul things so you can’t understand why anyone else would need one and anyone who does must be some fringe weirdo.

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Like I told the other guy, I already acknowledged that niche use cases exist, and explained the steps that a user should take in that situation.

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The problem is, there aren’t many “not wrong” devices that address the issue. And simply wanting storage because of poor network a lot of the time is a fine reason that doesn’t make someone a power user.

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I’m finding plenty of phones with either 256gb or expandable storage though, I don’t think it’s much of an issue, it’s just a person that didn’t take their needs into consideration when buying their device…

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I mean, there’s plenty of other requirements for a phone. Expandable storage doesn’t exist in a lot of popular devices that have plenty of updates past two years, or worse, the US (not sure where poster is). SD cards aren’t common especially in power-user type phones.

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The “power user” phones don’t have SD slots either though.

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I don’t think anyone builds a device for power users these days despite the astronomical prices of current smartphones.

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On the photo side I definitely need to work on it I’m certain there is so much I could delete and things I could move to my drives I fully agree on that

Since making my post I’ve also deleted 5gb of apps

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It sounds like you have a very specific set of requirements that requires a specific type of premium phone. Not everybody needs 128 GB of storage eon their phone (mine only has 64). I agree that a lot of storage and SD-card slots are good features to have on phones, but the truth is that not everyone needs those. Each feature will add cost and require more resources to build, and for a lot of people not having them will work just fine.

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I don’t get the arguments either way.

Buy the 512GB phone if you need it?

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I think the problem is that those 512GB cost more than a 512GB SD card.

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My mum is constantly complaining about not having enough storage on her phone but won’t switch away from an iPhone to and Android with an SD slot.

Some people just like to bitch about a problem not fix it.

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t sd card slots cheaper than 128GB of storage? Give me a phone with 32GB, allow me to pay for a 1TB SD card if i need it. Seems like a win-win. Hell, they can sell the phone with their own sd card in it already if they really want.

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Are sd card slots cheaper than 128 GB of flash storage chips? I’m not sure, but yes, probably. You would also need to factor in the additional complexity of allowing physical access to the slot, which would take some additional designing and a few more components. The sd card itself will probably be a more expensive and slower than integrated flash storage. By contrast, it is probably extremely easy to just shove some flash storage chips in a phone. Still, I agree that it sounds like a worthwhile tradeoff for me.

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It is and it isn’t. Let me preface this by saying flash storage should not be as expensive as it is. That being said, you may think 128gb is low, but most people aren’t going to want to be forced into paying more for a device that starts with 256, especially when plenty of people get on fine with 128. Not when the price will reflect the larger storage. If you think they are going to up the storage and not the price, you’re dreaming.

Especially on an iPhone, since it only has one partition and isn’t using extra space to fill a B partition with another OS.

If you’re just a casual user, who just uses a few apps and needs portable access to the internet, 128gb is plenty.

Cloud storage isn’t really a solution to augment your storage capacity, since you don’t actually own it. If you stop paying your cloud subscription, all of your data goes bye bye.

TL;DR stop crying and pony up for more local storage. I’m paying an extra 400 or so for 1TB.

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