Far more animals than previously thought likely have consciousness, top scientists say in a new declaration — including fish, lobsters and octopus.
Bees play by rolling wooden balls — apparently for fun. The cleaner wrasse fish appears to recognize its own visage in an underwater mirror. Octopuses seem to react to anesthetic drugs and will avoid settings where they likely experienced past pain.
All three of these discoveries came in the last five years — indications that the more scientists test animals, the more they find that many species may have inner lives and be sentient. A surprising range of creatures have shown evidence of conscious thought or experience, including insects, fish and some crustaceans.
That has prompted a group of top researchers on animal cognition to publish a new pronouncement that they hope will transform how scientists and society view — and care — for animals.
Nearly 40 researchers signed “The New York Declaration on Animal Consciousness,” which was first presented at a conference at New York University on Friday morning. It marks a pivotal moment, as a flood of research on animal cognition collides with debates over how various species ought to be treated.
Go. Vegan.
Or just enjoy being at the top of the food chain, just don’t morally waffle about it, own it. Be into suffering
The idea that humans are at the top of the food chain is largely disputed. On a global level we are at about the same trophic level as anchovies.
Colloquial usage, as I am here, refers to dominance on an ecosystem, and freedom of menu.
In that way there is nothing close to humans. You.csn eat nearly any creature on the planet, ordered over the internet. Next day if you’re in a rush.
Humans have no widespread predators.
Yeah, well I’m still not sorry I put out ant traps.
Edit: The downvoters have clearly never had an ant infestation in their kitchen. It’s not a ‘live and let live’ situation.
No fucking shit… anyone with half a brain and a minimum of empathy already knows that.
Yes, yes, the scientific method doesn’t discriminate between what is and isn’t obvious, but the headline is, as usual, aimed at people with the intellectual capabilities of a 4 year old.
The thing that makes the most sense to me is some combination of like animism and panpsychism. Then it doesn’t matter what may or may not be conscious, basically treat anything like it might be to the most practical level. Though I realize this is crazy talk to most people.
For example, don’t destroy stuff and cause what might be harm just for the hell of it.
- Don’t kill a plant because someone called it a “weed”
- A person using the wood of a tree for warmth, cooking, survival is part of the cycles of the planet. A corporation destroying forests so those in charge of it can skim profits is not.
- Thank the plants and animals that gave their lives for your food, shelter, and things, and don’t waste their lives.
- Maybe you have a piece of furniture that has history and has been in the family. Maybe it has some sort of spirit we can only partially understand. Maybe spirits come into being sometimes, when an object is built with love, such a a baby is made, or when someone builds a nice table. Destroying that table is more than simply the breaking of wood, it’s the loss of a history, a being. A materialist view of the world is so limiting.
That’s not what Kurt Cobain told me.
