Spotify is officially raising its Premium subscription rates in the US come July, following reports of the move in April. The platform is increasing its Individual plan from $11 to $12 monthly and its Duo plan from $15 to $17 monthly — the same jump as last year’s $1 and $2 price hikes, respectively. However, its Family plan is going up by a whopping $3, increasing from $17 to $20 monthly. The only subscribers getting a break are students, who will continue to pay $6 monthly.

Spotify announced the price hikes less than a year after its previous one last July. Before that, Spotify hadn’t raised its fees since launching a decade and a half ago. I guess it was too optimistic to hope the next increase would also take that long, especially with Spotify’s continued focus (and money dump) on audiobooks.

Premium subscribers should receive an email from Spotify in the next month detailing the price hike and providing a link to cancel their plan if they would prefer to do so. Users currently on a trial period for Spotify will get one month at $11 after it ends before being moved up to a $12 monthly fee.

35 points

How does this compare to other music streaming services these days?

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Tidal is $11/mo for an individual and $17 for a 6 person family plan. I recently switched because they supposedly give a better cut to artists and serve flac files.

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42 points

Yeah. Never thought I’d see the day when Tidal was cheaper than crappy Spotify.

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11 points

If i wasn’t paying for a family play on Spotify, I would have resorted to music piracy at this point. The quality is still garbage, the service is getting worse, but the prices are only going up every half a year

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4 points

£2 a month for a HiFi subscription if you use a Nigerian VPN.

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1 point

So if you use a VPN to sign up, then disconnect the VPN, does it block you? Or do you always need to be on VPN?

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1 point

Do you need to stay connected to that, or just for payment setup? I’ve already got an account…

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1 point

Tidal is great but IIRC it either doesn’t support Amazon Echo or the integration is poorly implemented.

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2 points

Oh no.

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9 points

I feel they’re all fairly similar. I won’t do apple music because I don’t do iOS, and I moved from Google play music when forced to the inferior YouTube music. I wonder if tidal or any other service has comparable pricing.

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I use YT Music because I get it cheap (VPN shenanigans), you can upload your own music (hello Nintendo soundtracks), and I mod the Android app to stop it being a mess (ReVanced Extended is the GOAT).

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1 point

Do you always have to have the VPN connected to get the cheaper rate?

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10 points

I’ve been using Apple Music on Android for years, I definitely recommend it. The app is totally fine, I think it’s still better than Spotify’s crappy app. On desktop you can use the Cider app, which is much better than iTunes. It’s even available on Linux.

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I switched to AM a couple years ago due to the (better) privacy policy vs YTM. The app is ‘fine’ but it’s painfully obvious that they didn’t want to bother with the android UI guidelines. But it’s a small annoyance, and the price is… palatable, I guess? I think I’d jump ship at $14, but at $12, fine. I don’t use it that much.

Actually, it’d be nice if they would charge based on usage, not flat-rate. I doubt I’m using $3 of that $12 cost.

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There is an official Apple Music desktop app for windows now, no need to use Cider.

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5 points

I use Apple Music, primarily because I need to pay for the higher tiers iCloud storage for my wife’s photo addiction and it’s basically “free” for the family plan.

If I didn’t already have the higher tier iCloud, I would probably prefer tidal for higher quality, or Spotify for the more diverse library.

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19 points

Apple Music only raised the price by $1 since the launch in 2015 (9 years ago). But they added cool features like lossless audio quality and Dolby Atmos. They also had lyrics like 6 years before Spotify added them. I think you can even get it for $6 dollars if you’re a student.

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6 points

Some lyrics are now disappearing from Spotify :-(

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1 point

lmao

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17 points

They also payout about 2.5X what Spotify does to artists.

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How does this work? Spotify has a deal with the music publishers, where they give 70 % of all subscription income to the music companies. The music companies (Sony, Warner, etc) then split the money based on the share of streams.

How can Apple pay out 2.5x70 %, so 175 %? Are thes losing with every subscription?

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The $6 student plan also includes Apple TV+

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3 points

I use YouTube Music and it’s pretty good, but the best feature is no more youtube ads.

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1 point

I use Deezer’s family plan that includes FLAC/HiFi for $15.99/month.

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1 point

I wish they allowed more audiobook time per month, so one could finish a book past 11hrs. I’d be fine with an extra buck or two for a combined audiobook/music streaming service.

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Just your local library for Libby or other electronic access. You probably have access to borrow audiobooks online for free. (assuming the US)

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Unfortunately, Spotify has it set where there doesn’t appear to be a limitation on how many people can listen at once, whereas Libby still only has so many copies to share.

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17 points

I gotta start direct downloading my music again soon. Spotify has just left me feeling so frustrated lately.

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7 points

I’ve emailed support thrice for intrusive full screen ads. “these are promotions”. Yeah, ads… “Sorry you don’t like our promotions, we will note it”

Uh huh.

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3 points

I can’t updoot you enough. I hate that so much too.

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7 points

Then the rest follow. If Apple music hike their price again, time to dust off my eye patch. Ive already cancelled all my streaming and went with plex, radarr, sonarr.

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Life hack: get Plexamp and Lidarr with Lidarr extended scripts. Then sign up for a free month of tidal with a throwaway account. Add said account to Lidarr extended. Add all the artists you want to Lidarr and let Lidarr Extended download all the stuff from Tidal for you. Once it has run out, register with another throwaway adress.

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4 points

Basically doing this already but my only issue is discovery. That’s why I pay for Spotify. I used to have a script set up before the API closed that would run automatically monthly to snag all my liked songs.

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There are cool projects for that on lidarr, or you use things like last.fm. Lidarr extended does have a feature to grab similar artists to the ones you have, leads to much bloat in a very short amount of time, of course.

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Thanks mate. Will definitely look at lidar. Maybe its time, some music like doom eternal arent available in apple music and this might push me.

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2 points

Does this work with any other services like spotify? I know Tidal is lossless but I already have Spotify and Lidarr.

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No, it works on Tidal and Deezer. Yet, since the throwaway account is free… :P Lidarr can import spotify playlists and fetch the tracks themselves from somewhere else though

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3 points

I do all these plus the streaming services 😂.

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5 points

Music streaming the only one i cant be bothered with since i have family plan with my gf plus discovering new music and new album from fav artist is too much to pass on.

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I’m all for pirating, but tbh music streaming apps are a service that is still in the “worth it” range. Not where Spotify is going, but, maintaining a library of high quality music with all the assets, and serving it to all your devices over the Internet is not a small feat to do securely.

I’ll probably switch to tidal for now while I start building up my library to include stuff beyond what I like…

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You should check out Plexamp while you bridge the gap. It has tidal support built in, and you can self-host your own collection as you build it up. Then when you’re done with tidal, you don’t have to learn or download a new app.

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There is no point to self hosting music streaming in my opinion.

Just have syncthing sync your music folder on your SD card to your server. Everything local and available when you want it.

Plex is slowly being enshittified too it seems, just slower.

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Plex is also on the route of enshittitfication. Jellyfin is the better recommendation imo. A variety of apps that can connect to it too, for either streaming or music.

For music libraries:

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22 points

Plexamp, Lidarr, Lidarr extended, Tailscale. Done.

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24 points

Done. Until it can’t find a decent quality option for an album you’re searching for.

A guy I know decided to move away from Spotify and pirate music. The amount of effort he went through means it’s something I’ll probably never try.

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Just some perspective: I’ve been self-hosting stuff for 7y now, started with plex on a nas. I have tried a couple times to get the *arr stack working, one at a time and fuck me it’s complex and the risk of fucking up the config and data crossing the clearnet without a VPN, noooope fuck right off with that. That risk/reward just is too skewed for me.

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But how do you handle music discovery?

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As someone else said: it doesn’t replace streaming even a little. Pirating is replacing buying music directly. Streaming facilitates finding new music and trying it out. Being able to listen to anything at any time. You simply can’t do that with downloads; no one can download everything. Piracy in this case really just works for people still listening to their highschool favs and not people looking for new stuff all the time.

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6 points

It replaces paying for Spotify because its possible to download Spotify premium. Best of both worlds. Use Spotify or YouTube to find stuff, send it to a seedbox, load it later at home.

Biggest downside is most phones don’t have SD card slots anymore.

Sent from my (slightly salty) hacked pixel 7

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9 points

Yes and no. It’s more cumbersome for sure but I used to find music on YouTube and all that back in the day then download it.

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9 points

I never had trouble finding new music without those recommandation algorithms.

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15 points

I used to download exclusively when I was younger, but as I get older I’m trying out new genres from different cultures than my own and I’d miss out on it all without a streaming service.

In my opinion it’s worth it.

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4 points

InnerTune. Its on F-Droid

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2 points

Just installed this. I love you!

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Dear lord no. You can still use Spotify, YTM, and a host of other services to discover new music. The argument was valid back in the days of the excellent Google Play Music, but the algorithm has gone to shit since. There are also tons of sources of user curated playlists you can use to fund new music.

I am 51 and if I let algorithms pick my music I would never discover most of what I find and constantly be fed thirty year old music. Just this past month I discovered mehro, King Woman, Sugar High and Parra for Cuva.

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Or put some effort into finding new music? The algorithms have never suggested me anything good anyway.

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8 points

This dude hasn’t heard of pirate streaming services.

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5 points

Do they have the libraries of Spotify or Apple music?

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5 points

I use a cracked Spotify client but if I do legitimately pay, it will be for Tidal. I want that sweet sweet lossless audio people have been talking about.

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I’m just here to appreciate the Buccee’s icon, carry on!

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