CamillePagliacci [none/use name]
That would be an interesting definition of fascism, but it fails the test of including regimes that were listed as fascist.
Pinochet’s Chile was very clearly in a situation where national and international capitalists were making decisions and where much of Pinochet’s power was reliant on the support of international (Particularly US) capital interests and national capitalists who could and did flaunt the laws of the state.
I’m more shaky on the RoC but from my understanding there basically was no state power except sending in the military to knock heads occasionally, parts of that country were entirely run by corporations, parts of it were run by regional warlords, parts of it had functionally no government. Very few people were actually subject to the state, and the forces of capital in particular were not subject to much state power. Ownership of production, military power and state functionary tasks blended together and were often held by the same people who tended towards embracing profit motives. Although I will admit my knowledge of the RoC is limited and I might be misunderstanding.
As for the RoK, that was fully a subject state to US capital interests.
I’m also pretty sure the US is considered fascist in this particular discussion (Or at least that was my understanding), and I think the US capitalist class is kind of uniquely powerful.
If we are to set up a very restrictive definition of fascism, that one would be a worthy one to consider. But I don’t think it’s a correct or useful one for this particular discussion given our previous inclusions of other regimes that do not fit within it. It is certainly one that would fit for a lot of traditional 20th century fascist powers, and one with a very clear outlook on what is being discussed.
They’re a big nosed race that run the banks and the government secretly who funds revolution to get rid of the traditional order that threatened them, they subvert other races specifically using lesser races to threaten the otherwise dominant racial group. They’re all, universally, in on it, it’s all planned, it’s all a big conspiracy those who find out are silenced and made to look like fools, those who oppose them are clandestinely gotten rid of.
All of that is 100% canon, it’s in the game, it’s not an interpretation. It’s just there. The most openly antisemitic shit I’ve seen. Now you can say its satire, and I would tend to agree, but I also think the fact that it isn’t even played as a little bit funny sort of undermines that.
What makes Russia fascist?
The embrace of fascism by its ruling political party, the fascist political structure, the fact that it’s built in the image of another fascist state (Namely the US), its embrace of anti-communism, anti-minority (whether those be gender and sexual minorities or religious and ethnic minorities), all the fucking nazis and fascists involved with or connected to the ruling party. Is this place doing a bit right now?
When did it become fascist?
Somewhere around the time Yeltsin took power, did away with the soviet union and any communist project, suppressed left wing resistance to this. And I would say the fascist didn’t end when he then handed power over to the guy who is still in charge being a fascist and basically doing the exact same thing more competently.
I’m not arguing that Nimoy wasn’t good in 4. But I don’t know if he was an actor known specifically for his voice. If you think otherwise, or I’m just wrong, that’s cool, but that just gets us back to the issue that I can’t think of a woman known for her voice that could get cast for this. (Except Shohreh Aghdashloo)