LeGrognardOfLove
You say that informal censorship is always dictated by class relations ?
That’s an interesting take.
I always saw echo chambers (what you call informal censorship) as inability to cope with a cognitive dissonance. It’s a way to emotionally protect one self from others beliefs.
In more than a way, a semi closed environment like lemmygrad is that, I think.
I don’t see it as censorship but more like a way to have constructive conversations about some subjects.
That’s an interesting take none the less!
The only thing you said I think is wrong is that de facto censorship always exist.
Censorship is created by a social entity hidding or faking data. Any advanced mind can take these incomplete or faked conclusions and from there find out that the data has been messed with.
Any “trust me bro” arguments can be rejected from the get go. Any information without it’s reproduction steps has no meaning, only an agenda.
People are pretty bright animals on the individual level, but where they fail is that they are social animals which will take cue from other social animals and social entitiesml.
What you see as de facto censorship is only a natural consequence of this mechanism.
But this can be countered with proper education of both the social animals and the social entities.
Fatalism is not needed here because we know that we can build social constructs that can change both how the social animal and the social entity comport themselves.
All in all , a censorship attempt, for a social animal that reject social cues from it’s peers, is at best an attack on it’s agency and intelligence, as worst a proof that the social entity has a hidden agenda and whishes a bad outcome to the censored.
And this attempt will by itself, because the social animal has an advanced mind, create an interest in what the other entity is trying to hide.
We can see this in action with antivaxxer, flat-earthers and so on, in which de facto censorship does not exist.
These examples are not the best, because they also get influenced by bad messaging -a sort of propaganda created by bad actors be it animal or entities - but they examplify the mechanism I am talking about.
Sorry, my English is quite poor this morning as I am very tired from bullshit events in my life.
So if im not very clear, I’m sorry again.
I don’t think censorship is the way. I feel it’s a fear driven approach and paternalistic.
It’s easy to see with your own eyes the decay of western society, because the supposed material gain is rooted in elitism and barely hidden exploitation.
The only way to convert the liberals is to show them what is really going on in the material world of western society. Keeping it censored will allow liberalism to fester and grow unchecked in china as these people will have their ideas reinforced by not being in contact with what liberalism really cause.
Yup! From a very fast search, the sculptor was a confederate apologist or somesuch. He died in 1940 something, and was building for the KKK during the KKK schism of 1920 of which I don’t have any idea what it means.
I’m pretty sure early 1900 american racism was not exactly as modern racism considering there were actual bounties on first nation people… Like we pay you to kill them type of bounties.
My (first nation) grand father like to talk about thoses stories but he’s a liar and I have no idea if what he say is true at all