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it’s usage is always a signal that its user is either a delusional liberal or an online sectarian not remotely interested in real world politics

That’s just what you want to believe.

The proof is in the fact plenty of ML groups successfully organize alongside street level anarchist groups all over the US, which isn’t exactly a country kind to socialists of any kind

You don’t have to stop being hostile to MLism to work with MLs. If there are common short term goals, it’s most often pragmatic to, especially in countries where there isn’t an active leftist threat at all like the US. That does not mean the anarchists are just perfectly fine being buddies with the MLs, nor that when the collaboration is over they won’t criticise and call them out again.

Using terms like tankie is a clear cut signal that person is terminally online and as a result couldn’t define anarchism to save their lives

Once again, that’s just what you believe. That’s nothing but a preconception. You’re telling yourself that so you can give yourself a free pass to blindly disregard anyone who says a word, and not have to listen to what they have to say. I’ve actually organized in real life both with pluralist orgs and with directly anti-marxist groups, full of people who despise all of you. Whether the real life anarchists I’ve done shit with say “authoritarian” “statist” or “tankie” or just “ML” has no bearing on their understanding of philosophy. Some are very new and don’t get things yet, some have been anarchists for longer than I have been alive, and have actually gone to jail for their anarchism.

You can disagree with and even condemn the actions of anti-marxist anarchist organizations just fine, but to try to say that they somehow aren’t “the TRUE ones” is just delusion.

That is nothing but an assumption then, given that, once again, I have never spoken about MLism in this thread.

Funnily enough it is the statists that most often kill the anti-statists “in real life” but okay, you do you buddy.

I mean I can literally define what an anarchist is because there’s a historical and theoretical structure to anarchism and if it isn’t followed you’re simply not an anarchist

Fair enough, that’s true.

Regardless, saying “tankie” indicates nothing of your understanding of anarchist philosophy. You have to actually look at what the person is saying. Some definitely are simply larping (like vaushites and such), some have been committed anarchists for decades. I’m not sure if you’re so enthusiastic about left unity you want to believe “anti-tankie” anarchists are “just not the true real and good ones”, or if you just want to discredit anyone that uses the word, but regardless it’s just a blind blanket statement.

I support the people of Russia and Ukraine in their struggles with war, starvation, loss of home and general suffering caused by the Russian and Ukranian/NATO states, which I do not support because I don’t support any state because I am an anarchist.

Okay, you were “owning me” because you thought I self identify as “anti-tankie”, everything I said still fully and completely applies.

Do you think I don’t have a principled disagreement too? Or why are you bringing that up? I’ve never said anything against MLism per se in this thread so far. Once again I am merely pointing out the dynamic that happens in “left unity”, and what people who call for it expect, aware of it or not.

Who said anything about NATO? Do you just have an imaginary anarchist in your head to be mad about? Do you think an anarchist is someone who watches a lot of Vaush?

When did I ever say it was my priority? You told me I am “anti-tankie”, I assumed it meant I was against those states and I said yes. An anarchist is against states, even revolutionary states. Do you expect an anarchist to abandon their anti-statism if some state challenges America? If yes then tell me, would you abandon your socialism if some fascist nation challenged America?

You don’t get to define what is a “true anarchist” and what isn’t, much less exclusively based off of if they use a word you don’t like or not. I don’t care about your respect, I am merely pointing out a dynamic that constantly happens in this community and those similar to it.

“You believe in what you believe in! You are very owned.”

If I didn’t oppose the USSR and China, and by proxy, those who vehemently defend and excuse them, I once again, would not be an anarchist at all.