cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17792695
After slowly phasing the app out in some regions, Samsung has announced that it will no longer pre-install Samsung Messages…
You’re the only one whining. People use SMS in the US because it’s free and completely interoperable with every other phone. If you send someone an SMS you know with great certainty that it will be received. Bragging about everyone using Meta to communicate is not the dunk you think it is.
If you send someone an SMS you know with great certainty that it will be received.
Not to get too bogged down in this debate or anything, but this European is surprised you say that SMS is reliable. One of the great motivators to use web-based messaging apps is because SMS is so notoriously unreliable, with messages occasionally not receiving or sending. Has SMS reliablity been improved much in recent years? Or is web-based messaging less reliable in your experience?
Genuinely curious btw, I’m not in the same party as the troll elsewhere in this thread.
I cannot recollect EVER having problems sending SMS, which is not something I can say for any other text messaging platform. Maybe that’s just me. However that’s irrelevant, as the point that I was making is that EVERYONE has SMS. You don’t have to ask anyone “Hey do you have the SMS app?” You just ask for their number and fire off a message and Bob’s your Uncle. If you want to send them a WhatsApp message and they don’t have WhatsApp, it is a 100% guarantee they will not receive your message.
Ah, I see. Your point isn’t necessarily reliability but availability. It’s an interesting perspective to hear that the US appears to be so behind (at least from a European perspective of course) when it comes to messaging apps. As far as SMS reliablity goes, I have occasionally had messages not send, or have messages come in delayed considerably. Or stuff like 2-factor auth texts not coming in, requesting a new one and then suddenly receiving 3 at a time. Not deal-breaking or anything, just the occasional annoyance.
I don’t think WhatsApp allows you to send a message to someone who doesn’t have the app. So WhatsApp would just inform you. Although I don’t recall the last time someone did not have either WhatsApp or Signal installed. But again, that appears to be far more common in the US?
Do you ever miss the extra features that web messaging brings, like in-chat polls, voice messages, etc…? I’m not sure how much of that RCS supports (because almost nobody uses that here). To me it seems like the convenience of web messaging outweighs the “does person x have app y” question, but that’s probably because I never really have to ask myself that question.
I also just realised that you state that everyone has SMS messaging. There are phone plans available here that don’t offer SMS messaging anymore. You can still receive them, but sending them either doesn’t work or costs a high premium (obviously this disadvantage is offset by a lower price for the rest of the plan). I wouldn’t be entirely surprised if SMS eventually just gets phased out.
In the US at least reliability hasn’t been an issue in 15 plus years at least…
I personally occasionally experience delayed sending/receiving of messages, or messages suddenly coming in in bulk. Only very rarely do messages not come in at all thankfully, but mostly the occasional delays in sending/receiving I think led to the reputation of poor reliablity for SMS. But it makes sense that the US would try to keep those issues to a minimum if so many people still use it, whereas in Europe perhaps it’s less of a priority?
I’d still rather use meta tho (which end to end encrypts the content) than unencrypted plaintext shit that goes straight to the government.
The fact you think Meta won’t hand over your data is sad. If you think they can’t save your “encrypted” messages you’re delusional. Their business model is selling user’s data. You can take it to the bank they have a backdoor built in.
The fact that youre illiterate and you’re hallucinating stuff i never said, is sad. I will address your concern however.
If you think that they are actually not encrypting the message content, then you’re a conspiracy theorist. They have thousands of other ways to track the user and give metadata to law enforcement. There is no need for them to lie about protecting the messages, as none of the regular users care about that. They had more than enough users of Messenger even before it was E2EE.
You’re the only one whining.
No, I’m actually very amused by Americans’ unwillingness to install a proper messenger and whine about green and blue bubbles.
Bragging about everyone using Meta to communicate is not the dunk you think it is.
The only messengers I mentioned by name were Signal and Telegram. You must me have confused with someone else.
No, I’m actually very amused by Americans’ unwillingness to install a proper messenger and whine about green and blue bubbles.
No one is doing that. You must have this thread confused with another one.
The only messengers I mentioned by name were Signal and Telegram.
While I agree that Signal is an excellent choice, almost no one uses it, which is exactly why its an insufficient replacement for SMS. It’s been pointed out in several threads that WhatsApp is basically a societal expectation in Europe so I assume that’s what your referring to.
Telegram is the only option that’s even worse than Meta.
No one is doing that. You must have this thread confused with another one.
All those stubborn Americans do that, whether they spell it out all the time out not.
While I agree that Signal is an excellent choice, almost no one uses it
Not with the attitude to refuse to install 3rd party messengers in the first place.
It’s been pointed out in several threads that WhatsApp is basically a societal expectation in Europe so I assume that’s what your referring to.
In different regions around the world, different messengers are the norm (for example Line in Japan). Only Americans are zealous defenders of archaic SMS.
Telegram is the only option that’s even worse than Meta.
Lolno.
