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Social development and class struggle aren’t matters of stupidity or superior races, but of material and historical conditions. Uzbekistan didn’t have the material and historical conditions up to 1917 that allowed for the emancipation of women. Hell, 90% of Tsarist Russia were serfs bound legally to the lands they worked, how progressive can we imagine these people were? It was only through socialism that women were able to considerably (though not completely) liberate themselves, thanks to the work of intellectual feminists like Kollontai and to the social progress achieved in the 20s in the RSFSR and posterior Soviet Union. The Bolsheviks liberated Uzbekistan from their feudal system and their most oppressive customs, while maintaining the language and culture in the region, which again explains why 95% of people in Uzbekistan voted to stay in a socialist USSR.

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Dude, “we civilized them” is literally a colonizer’s excuse.

And suggesting any vote in the Soviet Union was fair or the vote count accurate is laughable.

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Dude, “we civilized them” is literally a colonizer’s excuse.

Colonialists use that excuse, I’m very aware, the difference is that they’re lying when they say it. Number of hospital beds per capita, salaries, number of teachers per capita, conservation of local language through language choice in education and written publications such as books or newspapers in the local language, industrialization of the area… Literally no metric points towards colonization. You can’t say the same of, say, modern Puerto Rico, or colonial India under the British rule. That’s the difference.

And suggesting any vote in the Soviet Union was fair or the vote count accurate is laughable.

So I assume the 1991 referendum in Estonia whereby 75+% of the population wanted to secede the USSR was also invalid? Have some rigor, there’s no question on the validity of the referendums that took place over the USSR in its final moments.

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Colonialists use that excuse, I’m very aware, the difference is that they’re lying when they say it.

Yes, also a defense of colonialism. “The others are lying, but it’s true in our case.” Which is, by the way, not an excuse to annex a sovereign nation and make it part of yours. That literally makes it a colony.

And we have no idea if the Estonian vote was valid or not, no. I hope it was.

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Colonialists use that excuse, I’m very aware, the difference is that they’re lying when they say it. Number of hospital beds per capita, salaries, number of teachers per capita, conservation of local language through language choice in education and written publications such as books or newspapers in the local language, industrialization of the area

Holy shit, literally “The British built schools hospitals in Africa” level colonization apologia. Jesus Christ. And tankies wonder why I don’t view them any differently than any other authoritarians.

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