Dude, “we civilized them” is literally a colonizer’s excuse.
Colonialists use that excuse, I’m very aware, the difference is that they’re lying when they say it. Number of hospital beds per capita, salaries, number of teachers per capita, conservation of local language through language choice in education and written publications such as books or newspapers in the local language, industrialization of the area… Literally no metric points towards colonization. You can’t say the same of, say, modern Puerto Rico, or colonial India under the British rule. That’s the difference.
And suggesting any vote in the Soviet Union was fair or the vote count accurate is laughable.
So I assume the 1991 referendum in Estonia whereby 75+% of the population wanted to secede the USSR was also invalid? Have some rigor, there’s no question on the validity of the referendums that took place over the USSR in its final moments.
Colonialists use that excuse, I’m very aware, the difference is that they’re lying when they say it. Number of hospital beds per capita, salaries, number of teachers per capita, conservation of local language through language choice in education and written publications such as books or newspapers in the local language, industrialization of the area
Holy shit, literally “The British built schools hospitals in Africa” level colonization apologia. Jesus Christ. And tankies wonder why I don’t view them any differently than any other authoritarians.
If the british had built comparable infrastructure in India as in the UK, if they had industrialized it, if there had been no extraction of wealth, resources and of human labor, if there had been a similar amount of doctors and hospital beds per capita as in the UK, if there had been a similar amount of teachers per capita as in the UK, if there had been similar salaries for locals in India as those in the UK, if there had been education in the native language sponsored by the UK… If all of those things were true, then the UK wouldn’t have been committing colonialism in India. The difference is that they didn’t do these things, where as the USSR did. It’s not a matter of opinion, it’s simply factual. So, yes, the UK committed colonialism against India. the USSR never committed colonialism to any of its republics.
if they had industrialized it, if there had been no extraction of wealth, resources and of human labor
Fucking lol. Imagine claiming credit for developments of Estonia’s economy before you invaded, and then asserting that you caused that AND trying to sweep your own extraction of value under the rug.
Fascists never change, huh?
Colonialists use that excuse, I’m very aware, the difference is that they’re lying when they say it.
Yes, also a defense of colonialism. “The others are lying, but it’s true in our case.” Which is, by the way, not an excuse to annex a sovereign nation and make it part of yours. That literally makes it a colony.
And we have no idea if the Estonian vote was valid or not, no. I hope it was.
literally makes it a colony.
No, it doesn’t. You just don’t understand colonialism. Without exploitation of labor and resources from an imperial core, there’s no colonialism. Please, read a book.
“The others are lying, but it’s true in our case.”
Im not talking about opinion, I’m talking about data. Look at any of the metrics I’ve already provided you, comparing the data between republics in the USSR, and look at data comparing colonial India with the UK. If you refuse to acknowledge empirical evidence that’s not my fault. Not all political systems are identical as proven by data.
