As if it wasnāt bad enough that they want me to use a random internet service to add a keyboard to a usb wifi receiver, they have the balls to put this for Firefox users. I clicked out of pure curiosity, as Iām not even remotely interested in involving a corporate internet service in getting my keyboard connected to my computer. This is the message you get now on Logi Options software if you have a Unifying Receiver:
For the curious: https://logiwebconnect.com
EDIT: some people on the thread have brought up that the error message being displayed for Firefox users is due to the WebUSB API not being implemented by Firefox due to security concerns. This still does not justify having to use a web app to plug peripherals to a PC.
Lesson learnt. Stop buying products from HP, Adobe and now Logitech. Create a list of shitty companies and share it with everyone. Consumers have the ultimate power, stop buying g their product ans see how quickly they change everything back to normal.
Comments like this just make me depressed (well this is all depressing really) because it feels like a lot of people donāt quite understand how utterly insignificant we are to these businesses. They will lose so few customers it wonāt even wiggle the dial. People will simply download Chrome to do whatever this is, they will get the data they want, user goes back to using Firefox until the next shitty company makes them use Chrome for something.
The problem is simply the consumers. We are all suffering, increasingly, because of the complacency, tech illiteracy, laziness, and short-sightedness of the average consumer. Itās not really their fault, in that these businesses are the ones making the decision to do this, but realistically, if thereās no market pressure, a business is going to do exactly what every business does, which is maximize all potential avenues for profit.
The average consumer is the reason why we canāt have nice things anymore. And it is getting very hard not to feel a certain degree of resentment toward them as everything seems to just get progressively worse and worse with no hope in sight for any type of correction. They donāt think that this is something they need to care about, and it legit makes me want to scream thinking about 6-7 years from now when these same exact people will complain about how unusable the internet has gotten.
@deweydecibel @Yoz donāt blame the consumers people have busy lives and donāt have the time or interest to spend their limited free time learning privacy or avoiding a certain company because of an obscure privacy reason they donāt understand.
this is why market pressure is essentially bullshit. If more aggressive action is taken towards these companies instead of just blindly believing in the free market we might actually make an impact.
we have the free time letās use it to hurt them
Market pressure is not bullshit. Unorganized mod simply doesnāt exert any. You need money (corporations and billionaires) or coordination (unions, activists, and governments) to pressure markets.
So yeah, itās possible to exert market pressure by pushing politicians to outlaw such practices.
Man you took this whole comment right out of my mouth. These days I just resent everyone around me.
- Meta users
- pickup/SUV drivers
- Gamers
- people who donāt think privacy is important.
- People who are not only okay with but avid supporters of shit politicians (which, to be clear, is the vast majority of politicians).
- People who put my single item in plastic bags without asking me or drink hundreds of plastic bottles (I have a family member who owns a corporate environmental consultant startup who does this constantly)
And these people are just fucking everywhere. The future just feels so hopeless.
Like I get it can be difficult but I point out how they can be better and they just get offended.
I agree so much.
I sometimes go to a grocery store near work to pick up lunch, and I usually get like two things. The cashier always seems confused when I ask for no bag, despite me obviously being capable of carrying those items to the register.
So not only are people making weird choices for themselves, they seem adamant that I need to make them too.
Yeah I know. My brother in law (and by extention my sister) are super smart and politically active but they have a house full of data sucking gadgets like Alexa and absolutely no concerns about data privacy or security. Iāve tried to talk to them about being more selective about how they share their data, but my brother in law is a lawyer so trying to persuade him is like going to court and is just exhausting.
The average consumer is the reason why we canāt have nice things anymore.
No, itās the supply side cornering the market. If there was two similar mouses on the shelf, and one said āno crappy spyware bundledā, the average consumer would buy that. Thatās what they teach the āfree marketā is, and how free market capitalism should solve this problem.
But free markets donāt really exist, the better mouse without crappy spyware doesnāt either, so people need to come together and force corporations to respect the social contract. One might call this governmental regulation. Thatās where the answer is.
So then the problem is not consumers, it is citizens. Because how do you expect government regulations to come about if citizens are not asking for it? Citizens and consumers are generally the same people.
These are the closest Iāve found in the US: https://www.bcorporation.net/en-us/certification/
heh, all of them (plus several others) were on my list of ānever buy from themā list a decade ago. Never had any reason to reconsider
They still think they own the printer after you buy it. āNo, youāre not allowed to buy other ink thatās worked for you for so long. Only buy ours:ā https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/11/23635168/hp-printer-update-brick-third-party-ink-dynamic-security
