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Ten Chinese air force aircraft entered Taiwan’s air defence zone . . . Of those aircraft, the ministry said 10 had either crossed the median line of the Taiwan Strait, which previously served as an unofficial barrier between the two sides, or entered the southwestern part of Taiwan’s air defence identification zone, or ADIZ.

For those unfamiliar with the Air Defense Identification Zone:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Defense_Identification_Zone_(Taiwan)

Not only does it include a lot of water that isn’t part of the Strait, right off of China’s coast, it also includes a portion of Mainland China a few times larger than Taiwan itself.

People like to talk like China is flying jets over Taipei City, but you can fly a plane from one city in Mainland China to another, only passing over land, and be in this zone. Mind you, I don’t think Taiwan having this zone is bad – countries generally should be aware of air traffic nearby – but this is part of a long history of alarmist headlines by western media regarding what is often very uninteresting air traffic in the PRC.

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So Chinese bots are on lemmy too now. You obviously didn’t read the article - “Of those aircraft, the ministry said 10 had either crossed the median line of the Taiwan Strait, which previously served as an unofficial barrier between the two sides, or entered the southwestern part of Taiwan’s air defence identification zone, or ADIZ.”

In international relations, militaries have defined and at times unspoken rules of engagement. This was NOT routine flight over mainland China that you are making out to be, but was a clear breach of said protocols. Thus Taiwan sent its fighter jets to observe the Chinese military aircraft.

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So Chinese bots are on lemmy too now.

Amazing how comfortable you are being racist on a public forum.

Anyway, people should look at this map and take note of how far Taiwan’s ADIZ extends into Fujian province of mainland China and the open ocean (which is the southwest corner the PRC’s airplanes were supposedly encroaching on). These articles are obviously published to make China seem more aggressive than it really is. Meanwhile the US, with the most powerful navy in the world, parades its warships through the Taiwan strait, which for some reason is not seen as a threat or provocation. Also Taiwan claims the mainland as its own territory. Oh, poor little Taiwan. Lol, get off it.

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How is calling out a Chinese bot or Russian bot racist? You are obviously pro-China and you didn’t read the article. That makes you a Chinese bot.

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Yes, the ADIZ includes part of China, but this article is mainly about jets crossing the median line of Taiwan Strait. Also I don’t think Taiwan gets mad over any jets intruding the “overclaimed” part of the ADIZ.

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49 points

back to reddit with you

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Bro the amerikkkan navy sails it’s boats there. Silence, drone.

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52 points

Uhhh, that’s obviously different, America is a white western country and so it owns the world

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Everyone who disagrees with me must be a bot.

I bet your response will contain one of more of the following: Winnie the Pooh, social credit, comrade, Uyghurs. Yet you call others bots, lmao.

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Uyghurs are experiencing a genocide in China and you think it’s spamming to bring it up?

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Looks like you were correct on all of those predictions

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58 points

Evergreen Goosplan meme.

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I literally quoted the part that you just also quoted, which specifies that some of the craft were merely in the ADIZ, the one thing I was talking about in my comment

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So Chinese bots are on lemmy too now

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Beep boop I have been programmed to make really fucking cool historical dramas beep boop (This is my stereotype about China idk what else happens there I just really like Three Kingdoms adaptations did y’all see 2008’s Red Cliff it was dope af! John Woo directing!)

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-6 points

First day? Lemmygrad brigades every worldnews thread about China or Russia.

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crying about brigades like some loser Redditor

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Learn how federation works. Or better yet, go back to reddit.

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You both quoted the same exact piece of text. You said they didn’t read the article but you didn’t even bother to read their comment?

You are calling a human being a bot, literally dehumanizing them, because they don’t have the same hatred of China as you. You should really check yourself. You are full of hatred and ideological poison. It is clear from your comment that you have limited literacy skills and understanding, you should check out some other perspectives and try to broaden your horizons. Here is one. This is also another incredible resource with a lot of essays and information with a different perspective

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Oh another no post history user! welcome to fediverse!

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I’m so tired of the notion that anyone not being in line with certain narratives is automatically considered a drone.

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Like 6ish years ago we all, liberals and leftists together, were creeped out by the right’s sudden proliferation of “NPC” memes, correctly pointing out how dehumanizing it is and conjecturing darkly about what exactly this kind of rhetoric was priming these people for. Now, the overton window’s so fucked that the we’ve normalized deploying the exact same invective against anyone who speaks up on behalf of humanity and against a US-dominated world. I’ve driven past the ruins of the Japanese concentration camps out in the miserable desert, and to know that so many people around me who act self-righteous but stand for nothing would rebuild those camps at the snap of a finger, or the running of an op-ed, or a scary news story…well, these people may haughtily object to being called blue MAGA, but that sure doesn’t stop them from doing absolutely fucking everything they can to earn the label.

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Bruh lmao

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lemmy.ca

of fucking course lol, ugh

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Least Sinophobic Canadian

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48 points

RandAlThor, more like AynRandAlThor

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Lenin’s only mistake was giving Ayn Rand an education

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“or”

not “and”, “or”.

The southwestern quadrant of Taiwan’s ADIZ overlaps with China’s ADIZ. If anything, Taiwan is overclaiming their ADIZ.

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lemmy.ml stands for mega-lib smdh

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Lmao Taiwan existing is bad

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Yeah, obviously it’s a glorified puppet state but there’s no point in arguing from that standpoint here. If a country is to exist, it should know about local air traffic, that’s all I’m saying.

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It is not to exist. I don’t care about their air borders and I hope China flies wherever they please within Chinese territory like Chinese Taipei

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A glorified puppet state? What do you mean?

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38 points

Taiwhat? I Thought it was called the Republic of China, and everyone’s been telling me China bad!

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11 points

Cool, so lets ask the people living there (not those in power) what they want with their country.

… oh.

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Like asking yankoids what they want to do with “their land”, the question is pointless and only serves to legitimize a faulty preposition.

The ROC also still claims to be the legitimate government of all of China (plus Mongolia and a sizable chunk of Russia) so its not like they’re just sitting there minding their own business either.

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OK, but these articles arent alerting on that type of traffic, only when military aircraft are flying near Thailand, so whats the significance of the ADIZ extending into China in this context?

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That’s exactly what type of traffic these articles are alerting. Which is why there’s no need to even pay attention to it.

Also Thailand has had Chinese military visit it’s country as well as trained with Chinese soldiers. If you know so little, why comment?

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The quoted text in your reply says that the jets crossed a half way point over the sea. They were not over mainland China.

This feels like having a conversation with bing’s chat bot.

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