Comment by LastOneStanding@beehaw.org on Google says AI systems should be able to mine publishers’ work unless companies opt out, turning copyright law on its head

In its submission to the Australian government’s review of the regulatory framework around AI, Google said that copyright law should be altered to allow for generative AI systems to scrape the internet.

So works derived from other works should not be copyrightable? Oh wait, that’s specifically allowed. As long as it’s not being reproduced 1:1 then it falls under fair use. The argument that one should get paid for that is absurd. You can’t copyright the idea of something. If that were the case then you could never write another poem or novel or short story because someone already did that and to do so would be “stealing.” It would be ridiculous.

You have really meandered off the path of what I was talking about. But please, meander. It’s interesting.

Well, that’s what the person you replied to was saying. Essentially the “AI” is only reading the book, it’s not copying the book.

I could rewrite the entire Lord of the rings series in my own words and it wouldn’t be copyright infringement. I could sit there with the movies on repeat and the books all open for reference, I don’t owe the rights holder anything in that case, as long as I’m but reproducing their work.

They’re just trolling. Feel free to block and ignore, it’s the best way of dealing with them until moderation is more reliable.

When you applied to join Beehaw you agreed to our standards, right? Please don’t be a dick on here, OK?

I might have applied and i wasn’t being a dick. you removed my comment because why? you think the lord of the rings was written for grown-ups or something? time to test you and see how outlandish you can be. i’ll think twice about participating here. not a safe place for me when I haven’t said anything wrong. fortunately for me, technology isn’t my specialty. it’s literature. so, say goodbye to me from your community. also, didn’t appreciate your insult. I’m from the community you’re from. the comment from the other person came from another instance. you have nothing to worry about. in technology you won’t hear a peep from me, because I learned how this place works. humanities and cultural literacy is not appreciated here.

You gotta speak to your audience.

What is this person’s audience? I’m not it. I guess they should have not picked me. LMAO. Poor kid. I just want to give the poor kid a huge hug, bake some Nestle Toll House cookies, and we can Netflix and chill to the whole Lord of the Rings plus the Hobbit. You know, because I have a heart, and this person needs this. Not that I’d enjoy any of it, I’d just be totally sacrificing my whole identity in favor, just to be helpful and all. LMAO

@LastOneStanding @SkepticElliptic ok but YA is more likely to have interesting queer relationships as far as stuff that I can find in a library or at a bookstore. All the adult queer literature tends to be sold online and the authors themselves have to do most of the promoting.

Bizarre amount of assumptions in your ignorant wall of text post. I’m an attorney that’s worked in copyright for small artists and creators. In my current job i fight back against the tech giants and try to reign in specifically Google Amazon and Meta with consumer protection regulations. The fuck are you?

I’m a person that has the same clout around here as you. You’re an anonymous rando unless you wish to advertise your legal services, put your name and pic up here for people to see and seek your services, which you are more than welcome to do. Until then, guess who I and you are? Nobody with an opinion. Welcome, Nobody, Attorney at Law. You just got irritated and you can’t do shit about it.

I don’t need to prove anything to you, but your now multiple wall of text rambling screeds say nothing except ignorant insults. If you want to actually engage with the issue, be my guest. Refute what I’ve said, or something new, or idk, at least interesting. You’re just being irritating for irritating sake, otherwise. You don’t have the same “clout” (lmao what is this, recess?) because you haven’t actually brought anything to the discussion.

They are a troll with nothing but nonsense to say. Thanks for your contribution to the discussion it was a great way to frame the issue.

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