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I don’t know why people keep attributing privacy to Lemmy when ActivityPub is anything but.

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Is ActivityPub logging which IP I post from? Is ActivityPub monitoring which communities I view? Is ActivityPub blocking me from browsing with my VPN on?

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Is ActivityPub logging which IP I post from?

That depends on the implementation.

Is ActivityPub monitoring which communities I view?

That depends on the implementation.

Is ActivityPub blocking me from browsing with my VPN on?

That—believe it or not—depends on the implementation.

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We already have an implementation. You me and OP are all on Lemmy. So can you answer these in the context of Lemmy again?

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3 points

ActivityPub does not share your IP with other instances, but of course, like all websites, your home instance can see your IP.

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I got off lemmy.world because they block VPN connections. Not happening, under any circumstances. I don’t trust anyone that much.

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Is your IP passed on to other instances along with your post/comment?

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Meanwhile I know lemmy instance that blocks most clearnet connections and can be accessed from tor and i2p

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Trust them with what though? What are you posting?

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And generally that’s fine. If you’re posting stuff publicly, expect it to be public.

Lemmy gives away for free what Reddit is desperately trying to put up walls on so they can sell it, but I wouldn’t call it “private” because it’s monetized.

Lemmy is the opposite of privacy, and that just makes sense if you 🤔.

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4 points

I desperately want all my posts on all forum like sites to be easily indexable by search engines. That Reddit blocked other search engines besides Google from indexing is crazy.

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12 points

Privacy in the sense that no one is selling your information for profit

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In terms of privacy reddit has it better(still bad but better than Lemmy) because your content is locked behind a paywall only few companies can access. On the other hand, any one can train their AI on Lemmy posts and access all history of all users freely. The difference is that on lemmy only the companies that collect your data profit, while on reddit also the owners of the platform (reddit itself) profit.

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No, it’s just open free for the taking by anyone who decides to spin up their own instance, or to anyone who decides to scrape from an instance frederated with yours without robots.txt set against web scrapers. Hosters could even intentionally break federation to prevent deletions from syncing.

I love lemmy, but privacy is not one of its features.

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4 points

Any script kiddie can scrape the entirety of Lemmy, with the exception of direct/private messages. robots.txt is merely a request, with no enforcement capability.

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That was what I was going to say.

That said, if someone detects some sort of data-mining plagiarism bot sucking down everything on an instance, it can be defederated very quickly.

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New instances basically suck down everything as the most normal use case. That’s what activitypub is for.

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There is script that marks entire fediverse for backfilling

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Why would such a bot need to be on a new instance?

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The amount of magical thinking around federated protocols both on Lemmy and Mastodon is astounding. Sure, design decisions make a difference, but federations gonna federate.

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See, the app won’t track your clicks, views, interests. Only public thing is the thinh you post. Which is great for public communities. Theese are meant to be public. But things facebook or reddit or google does is enough to call lemmy private

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