Lemdro.id

-1 points

5 months ago

I don’t need your introductions to ranked voting. I can see the point. But bot when all the other shit exists, too. There’s an order to this shit, and giving extra levers to those that don’t want democracy isn’t helpful either

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https://www.npr.org/2024/06/05/nx-s1-4969563/ranked-choice-voting-bans

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aodhsishaj@lemmy.world

2 points

5 months ago

I think you might, because you’re parroting the point of the very people you’re saying are "poisoning the pool "as you say.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/08/us/ranked-choice-voting-elections.html

And again, here you can read this one in private. I won’t tell anyone.

https://triblive.com/opinion/tyler-cowen-want-more-moderate-candidates-demand-ranked-choice-voting/

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-1 points

5 months ago

I literally do not want more moderate candidates. Do you not see that is my point? If you push towards moderation when the average is slewed towards “anarcho-capitalism”, you’re going to keep pushing that direction.

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aodhsishaj@lemmy.world

3 points

5 months ago

So Trump, that’s a moderate candidate? That’s what FPTP has gotten us.

You also don’t understand the Overton Window as it’s a general trend. Also how it’s a product of a binary choice that’s referenced by Duverger’s Law. I’ve literally laid out my whole political theory in support of Pluralistic Democracy and how the fastest way for America to get there is RCV.

Your response to all of this is that links are hard and you’ve only directly responded to a cherry picked comment from a political scientist that was cautious about saying RCV will definitely cure America’s electoral problems.

Again, you would be better served to look at any of the materials I’ve provided you.

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-1 points

5 months ago

No, that’s what the Electoral College got you. Not FPTP. That’d be Hillary. She won the majority, was first past the post. But in America, you use FPTP and take all the posts and count them differently.

You’re totally misconstruing “the overton window”, jesus christ. My point, is that there is no point in implementing some RC system when only the Democrats and Republicans exist in an ecosystem where companies and people can openly purchase politicians.

All of these ideas make sense on paper, because they all assume the electoral system isn’t completely infected with money. This would simply add another layer to make it harder to remove it. You have to remove the money first, then complicate the system.

I can only see this via the Republican party being completely decimated, and replaced by a contingent of 3-5 parties splitting from the Democrat ticket after they secure enough of a majority to fix the constitution. If they cant do that, it should never happen

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aodhsishaj@lemmy.world

2 points

5 months ago

Please stick to the single stream of our topic. I’m not going to discuss this with you across multiple comments. I’m researching my responses so that I can provide you sources in good faith. If you’d rather just knock over the pieces and shit on the board feel free.

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-1 points

5 months ago

Lmfao you’re trash, this is my cellphone, you like to make fun of people for getting names wrong and now you cry cause comments are in two threads. Get over yourself mr botnet

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