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Except everyone is a sinner by default, so what’s the downside? That’s the problem with these “temptation” parables. Nothing Johnny could do himself would ever avoid that fate, so why act like it?

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I’m just pointing out that within the constructs of the predominant Christian mythologies… Johnny’s fucked himself over unless he recognizes he’s being a shit and atones for it.

Whether you assign any validity to the underlying dogma is an individual choice. People have a tendency to overlook logical inconsistencies in their faith frameworks, in any case.

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