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Fascism has a specific definition that also relates to capitalism but otherwise you’re right that those in power will cling to power.

Fascism is one such outcome that occurs when capitalism is under threat.

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In that case, when you say “Liberalism leads to fascism”, what you mean is “Liberalism creates the preconditions necessary for fascism”, just like liberalism creates the preconditions necessary for socialism.

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Not exactly. Part of the characteristics of liberalism is that it’s supportive of capitalism and capitalism can be regulated but will tend to move towards increasing power imbalances, artificial scarcity, and environmental destruction.

Those things cause strain on a liberal society, and that strain leads that society to go into turmoil. Populism begins to happen, but collective resistance to the capitalist ruling class is strongly suppressed while other forms of harmful populism like racism and desire for war are allowed to fester or even amplified.

Capitalism is the dog, but liberalism is the neglecful owner that lets go out the leash

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Not exactly. Part of the characteristics of liberalism is that it’s supportive of capitalism and capitalism can be regulated but will tend to move towards increasing power imbalances, artificial scarcity, and environmental destruction.

Okay, cool, so which system hasn’t tended towards that so far?

Because right now, it sounds a whole lot like “Liberalism leads to fascism” is only true in the most banal sense.

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