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A conscious system has to have some baseline level of intelligence that’s multiple orders of magnitude higher than LLMs have.

If you’re entertained by an idiot “persuading” something less than an idiot, whatever. Go for it.

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A conscious system has to have some baseline level of intelligence that’s multiple orders of magnitude higher than LLMs have.

Does it? By that definition, dogs aren’t conscious. Apes aren’t conscious. Would you say they both aren’t self aware?

If you’re entertained by an idiot “persuading” something less than an idiot, whatever. Go for it.

Why the toxicity? U might disagree with him, sure. Why go further and berate him?

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No, that definition does not exclude dogs or apes. Both are significantly more intelligent than an LLM.

Pseudo-intellectual bullshit like this being spread as adding to the discussion does meaningful harm. It’s inherently malignant, and deserves to be treated with the same contempt as flat earth and fake medicine should be.

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No, that definition does not exclude dogs or apes. Both are significantly more intelligent than an LLM.

Again, depends on what type of intelligence we are talking about. Dogs can’t write code. Apes can’t write code. LLMs can (not bad code in my experience for low level tasks). Dogs can’t summarize huge pages of text. Heck, they can’t even have a vocab greater than a few thousand words. All of this definitely puts LLMs above dogs n apes in the scale of intelligence.

Pseudo-intellectual bullshit like this being spread as adding to the discussion does meaningful harm. It’s inherently malignant, and deserves to be treated with the same contempt as flat earth and fake medicine should be.

Your comments are incredibly reminiscent of self righteous Redditors. U make bold claims without providing any supporting explanation. Could you explain how any of this is pseudoscience? How does any of this not follow the scientific method? How is it malignant?

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