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@bitofhope Absolutely agree, but this is where technology is evolving and we have to learn to adapt or not. Since it’s not going away, I’m not sure that not adapting is the best strategy.

And I say the above with full awareness that it’s a rubbish response.

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have you ever run into the term “learned helplessness”? it may provide some interesting reading material for you

(just because samai and friends all pinky promise that this is totally 170% the future doesn’t actually mean they’re right. this is trivially argued too: their shit has consistently failed to deliver on promises for years, and has demonstrated no viable path to reaching that delivery. thus: their promises are as worthless as the flashy demos)

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@froztbyte Given that I am currently working with GenAI every day and have been for a while, I’m going to have to disagree with you about “failed to deliver on promises” and “worthless.”

There are definitely serious problems with GenAI, but actually being useful isn’t one of them.

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for those who can’t be bothered tracing down the thread, Curtis’ slam dunk example of GenAI usefulness turns out to be a searchish engine

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There are definitely serious problems with GenAI, but actually being useful isn’t one of them.

You know what? I’d have to agree, actually being useful isn’t one of the problems of GenAI. Not being useful very well might be.

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(sub: apologies for non-sneer but I’m curious)

tbh I suspect I know exactly what you reference[0] and there is an extended conversation to be had about that

it doesn’t in any manner eliminate the foundational problems in specificity that many of these have, they still have the massive externalities problem in operation (cost/environmental transfer), and their foundational function still relies on having stripmined the commons and making their operation from that act without attribution

I don’t believe that one can make use of these without acknowledging this. do you agree? and in either case whether you do or don’t, what is the reason for your position?

(separately from this, the promises I handwaved to are the varieties of misrepresentation and lies from openai/google/anthropic/etc. they’re plural, and there’s no reasonable basis to deny any of them, nor to discount their impact)

[0] - as in I think I’ve seen the toots, and have wanted to have that conversation with $person. hard to do out of left field without being a replyguy fuckwit

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